01-11-02, 09:13
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geekysteve is offline
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Interested in product performance - not popularity contests Posts: 987 | Anyone ever detail boats? A business friend noticed my Tahoe and after picking his jaw up off the ground (always the best compliment), he asked if I'd detail his boat.
I said that I'd never detailed a boat before, but I'd consider it. He then said that the guys at the local marina's are upset because they can't find anyone to detail their boats...and when they do, they're paying $1500 for a crappy detail.
So, I'm thinking...hmmm, 4 boats a month = $6000....hmmmm....
Curious if anyone's detailed a boat, and if the normal products/techniques apply?
Thanks again.
-Steve
Oh yeah - his boat is a 32 footer, so it would take a while but for $1500 I'm seriously considering it! | |
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01-12-02, 05:49
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Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,736 | I am also interested in this as well.
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01-12-02, 08:08
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Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: A Bourbon Street Balcony Posts: 3,210 | My father has always had boats and I always had to clean them..his were larger say twice the length..
The interior and such is just like a house or car depending on the boat (yacht)...Some have the plastic windscreens so use the plastic stuff there...
As for washing we always used tide or such to remove all the gunky salty marine stuff. He would buy crap from Wext Marine so I would use those products as well.
Try not to get asked to do from the rubrail down to the water...MAjor PIAAAAA..unless the boat is on a trailer...
teak trim is a PIA too because you have to get two part cleaners and stuff and very time consuming....
Take a look at the boat if it is mostly painted you could treat it like car paint and be ok..I would reco a PC though for time saving.
Now my father pays a bunch of scantily clad woman to clean his boat....
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01-12-02, 10:27
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Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: -Salt Lake City- Former Deputy Dawg Posts: 6,021 | Quote: | Originally posted by Guess My Name Now my father pays a bunch of scantily clad woman to clean his boat.... [/b]
| Where does he dock his boat again?
I thought about doing boats but they do get nasty. I'm glad I moved further inland so I don't have to be tempted. Although, some of the cars I've seen in Salt Lake this year look crustier than most of the boats I saw in Seattle...... (damn salt!)
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01-12-02, 08:44
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geekysteve is offline
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Interested in product performance - not popularity contests Posts: 987 | Thanks for all of the tips - I'll take a look at them and make a "safe" decision after that. Definitely would use the PC and was even thinking of trying a power washer on them.
Thanks again,
Steve | |
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01-12-02, 10:53
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Scottwax is offline
Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 24,986 | I've detailed speed boats and bass boats, but never a yatch. I use Meguiars RV/Boat surface care products-but if the gel coat is faded, it just takes way too long to bring them back, and they begin fading again is just a few months. The vinyl seats are also real tough-sun exposure, sun tan lotion and sweat make a really nasty grime. For an open boat (like a speedboat), I charge $7.50 a foot-so a 20 foot speedboat would run about $150 and would take a good 5 hours.
I've pretty much stopped doing boats-people don't take good care of them, they never drain any of the insulated compartments so they absolutely reek of mildew, and it just really isn't worth the time and effort. I prefer doing cars and motorcycles anyway.
I also used to do RVs also-and the older ones could be really tough. Again, the incredible amount of time they take to really detail eats up too much of my week. A 40' rig takes two full days to do, and with regular business on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday of every week, it eliminates doing any other business on Monday and Tuesday. I do wash a 44' tour bus though-the guy has a pressure sprayer and water ionizer at his warehouse, so I just wash and let it air dry. I also spray down the engine and clean the windows and dress the tires. Takes about 3.5 hours and I get $120. | |
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07-28-04, 12:19
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Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indianapolis (Carmel) Posts: 2,091 | Yeah, but it is still relevant.
Boats take a long time.
Boats are seldom painted, and gelcoat is a different thing, to be sure!
But, $1500 is enticing...
Jim
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07-28-04, 01:58
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Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 302 | A wiseman once told me that if you don't really like the job, bid it over so you won't get it. But if you do get it, atleast you're making good money! | |
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07-28-04, 07:23
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Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kenner, LA. Posts: 197 | i like ncal's advice the best 'cause i'm starting to deal with alot of boats down this way(New Orleans) and they are a definite PITA. i hate'em, but it's hard to pass up $50/hr. my prices will be going up at the first of the year though to at least $65/hr. i find boats to be very unrewarding and the gel coat just seems to soak up a ton of product. it's not so bad if the boat is well kept, but all the one's i seem to be dealing with only get a waxing once a year if they're lucky. if i could get $1500/ boat - you better believe i'm detailing for two full days if i have to. | |
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07-28-04, 07:29
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Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: macomb, Michigan Posts: 1,073 | ive detailed yahcts, 30 footers(search for sea ray detail), and jetskis. You need a rotary and you need to work fast if you want to get it done. Most boats in tip top shape can be done with finesse it 2 and topped with collinite wax or #16. Otherwise, you need to have a compound before the finesse it 2 if the gelcoat is oxidized.
I think everyone should detail a boat to get the experience. Great way to learn on a rotary too(just dont' sit). Just remember, time is money, and having another person following behind will save you lots of time.
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07-30-04, 08:26
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Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey -- Attitude Capital of the World! Posts: 50 | Jimmy Buffit,
Sorry to say, you won't get $1,500 for a boat unless its over 60 feet. Normal market will bare around $12-16 per foot and that just includes everything except the cabin area. Usually the cabing is $75-100 more.
But still, there is a killing to be made in boat detailing since there isn't much competition for the reasons mentioned on here -- it's a PITA. It can be fun if you let it be fun. Nothing is better than working at a marina on a 75 degree, sunny spring afternon -- along the river/ocean.
sonnydaze1, the reason the gel coat is sucking up the product is because more oxidation needs to be removed. Gel coats are VERY durable and can take a good high speed polishing with very abrasive compounds/polishes then produce a great shine.
I detail boats almost everyday and love it. Again, lots of money to be made doing it! Just more labor intensive than detailing cars.
Good luck in yourventures if you decide to do boats!
Take care,
Brian Angelucci
Precision Auto & Marine
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07-30-04, 09:17
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Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 24,986 | Great points, Brian!
Like I stated above though, I really have gotten out of boat detailing because I don't enjoy it and most of the calls I get are for boats in absolutely hideous condition. I did detail one this year though and it was in pretty good shape to begin with so it wasn't too much of a grind.
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