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07-09-07, 11:53
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| | Swirlophobic
whitejavaS500 is offline
Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: South Shore, MA Posts: 470 | Getting into boat detailing, advice needed. So me and my buddy are out washing my (parents) 48' Tiara Express, when some one walks by commenting on the job we are doing, whichj trans lates him into asking if I detail boats for work. I told him I actually have a small car detailing bussiness, but would like to get into boats. We agree on a wash on his MASSICE Vicem Motor Yachts 54' which can be seen here: Vicem Yachts
Anyway, he wants us to get into a full detailing of the boat, and I need marine detailing products. So far I have decided on the Big White Marine line which is basically FK1's marine line, so it must be good.
Just looking for some advice as to products, and any tips and tricks would be awsome!
Thanks guys
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07-09-07, 11:57
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| | Glossy Tundra
Brandon1 is offline
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC/Louisburg, NC Posts: 1,881 | Re: Getting into boat detailing, advice needed. I have been detailing boats for a while now, and I must say, they are a totaly different breed than cars.
If the fiberglass is oxidized, you may need wool and a cutting cream to get the fade out. Otherwise, you can get away with wool and a cleaner wax with a topper.
I personally like Aquatech for their line of boat products. Their cleaner wax lasts longer than most sealants on cars, and goes on great and gets out defects with wool.
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07-09-07, 12:01
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Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,946 | Re: Getting into boat detailing, advice needed. Don't be afraid to use wool and a higher speed on boats. I use Four star 4-40 for boat details.
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07-09-07, 06:22
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| | Glossy Tundra
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Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC/Louisburg, NC Posts: 1,881 | Re: Getting into boat detailing, advice needed. Yeah, seems like fiberglass doesent like foam pads, just wool. And you WILL NOT get all swirls out and you wil still find holograms, I think that is just the nature of fiberglass.
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07-11-07, 03:09
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Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,561 | Re: Getting into boat detailing, advice needed. Ben,
One trick would be figuring out how to price a full detailing of that 54' yacht. Any ideas? | |
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07-11-07, 12:38
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Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,561 | Re: epoxy coating? Ben,
Be careful. It appears that the Vicem Motor Yachts have an epoxy coating over wood. I would highly recommend that you seek out professional advice directly from the manufacturer. Since the surface may not be fiberglass gelcoat, I would certainly not jump to using any type of wool pad without a recommendation from the manufacturer. Hey, these boats are expensive. Get the proper advice and then proceed with caution.
Just a few helpful thoughts. | |
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07-13-07, 07:28
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Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Flint Michgan Posts: 839 | Re: Getting into boat detailing, advice needed. We've been doing just a ton of boats and RV's here lately. So far from what I've used Meg's RV/Marine line works the best. I've set up an appoint with a re from biokleen ( BioKleen Biodegradable High Performance Non-Toxic Cleaners) they sell professional lines in bulk and really seem to stand behind their product.
My best advice it to know when a turd is a turd and not everything can be saved when it comes to gelcoats. Sometimes you just have to pass. Hard lessoned learned here. | |
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07-13-07, 11:16
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| | Glossy Tundra
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Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC/Louisburg, NC Posts: 1,881 | Re: Getting into boat detailing, advice needed. Quote: |
Originally Posted by VaSuperShine
you will be able to remove swirl marks and you do not want to leave hologramming on the gelcoat. i use optimums line of polished *when* i do boats. higher speeds a must and rotary is a big timesaver.
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Have you ever tried to remove swirls from fiberglass? You must be talking about something different. I have polished over 20boats/rv's and NONE of them had all the swirls removed. I typically use a wool pad on rotary at 1800rpm and EC. For me, they simply wont come off. And have you even been to a marina? Every boat in almost every marina I have been to is covered in holograms. I know a bunch of "autopian" boat detailers and they wont touch trying to remove holograms.
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07-13-07, 11:53
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| | Glossy Tundra
Brandon1 is offline
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC/Louisburg, NC Posts: 1,881 | Re: Getting into boat detailing, advice needed. Look bud, I am not trying to be rude.
I am just stating that *I* have NEVER seen any swirl or hologram removal on most hard fiberglass and gelcoat. You seem to be able to do it, but have you ever tried to do what is in the pics above to a 70 or 80 foot Hatteras or Ocean Yachts?
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07-17-07, 05:15
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| | Swirlophobic
whitejavaS500 is offline
Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: South Shore, MA Posts: 470 | Re: Getting into boat detailing, advice needed. Brandon, just finished up a Viking 55C, and left no holograms on it, may I also add, that after my inital step, HTEC via purple foamed wool at 1800, I folowed up with OC on an LC orange at 1500, and there were no swirls to be seen.
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