Best LSP for white cars? - Page 2

YoMike · 10-07-09, 11:01

Poli-Seal (UDM polisher), then seal with Opti-Seal.

dheath · 10-07-09, 11:14

nice tuscani.

Mine is still a tib...

WhyteWizard · 10-08-09, 06:33

So, when there seems to be consensus, why not throw in the cat?

I don't treat white cars differently from black. I set up my lighting so I can see the fine scratches and polish them out, remove my swirls and top with what I've found to be the most transparent and reflective wax I can lay my hands on. The car should look waxed the reflection should look that good before you ever put wax on it. EXCEPT when you've got a client who scratches the car up so badly that it wouldn't be in their best interest because cutting it every time would leave them needing a paint job - fill and glazes were invented for people who do bad maintenance.

When it comes to making any car really shine, polishing not waxing, is IMHO the thing that sets them apart. Lot's of waxes work well. Using a poly then coating it with a carnuba if you find a combination that works can be dazzling.

Robert

Accumulator · 10-08-09, 07:59

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Originally Posted by WhyteWizard

..I don't treat white cars differently from black...When it comes to making any car really shine, polishing not waxing, is IMHO the thing that sets them apart. Lot's of waxes work well...

That's what I was thinking. I've been pleased with all sorts of LSPs on white, from sealants to Souveran. The subtle diffs are pretty much personal preference and work out the same as on any other color. And that last ~5% or so that the LSP contributes won't look the same to different people (if they even notice), so do what *you* like.

automints · 10-08-09, 10:38

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

That's what I was thinking. I've been pleased with all sorts of LSPs on white, from sealants to Souveran. The subtle diffs are pretty much personal preference and work out the same as on any other color. And that last ~5% or so that the LSP contributes won't look the same to different people (if they even notice), so do what *you* like.

Great point. I agree with that too. But then I'm thinking, why do some people invest thousands of dollars on waxes like swisvwax and whatever that Miracle Detail guy uses, compared to those that cost $20 a pop? Is it just the rich wanting something that others can't have?

automints · 10-08-09, 12:00

Here's a recent white car that we did. I used CG M-seal, which has been my go to LSP. I was just trying to see if there was something that would give more shine/gloss/depth, even if it is less durable, because the 350z is going on a show.

FYI, the process we used for this detail was:
Clay, Hood & Trunk partially wet sanded (really bad paint job from body shop), M105 on PFW, Menz FP on PC, CG M-seal.

Satinsilver · 10-08-09, 12:07

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Originally Posted by D Tailor

Maybe top with PB White Diamond?

Good idea but I would apply the WD 1st then topped with a sealant of your choice. I'm sure PB sealant with carnauba with be great.

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Originally Posted by ramtough

3M Total Performance polish looks awesome on white. You can get it locally to.

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Originally Posted by Darkstar752

You mean Duragloss 105?

Two different animals. Heard good things about both.

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Originally Posted by dheath

a lot of people often comment that AW looks great on all light colored cars.

Are you talking about DG AquaWax?

WhyteWizard · 10-08-09, 01:08

There are a few I like. Hi-Lustre makes Purple Glaze and White Carnuba, Collonite Paste waxes are very good, Mark-V has some good wax, Parker Distributing out of Texas makes a product called Longevity that's very durable, Klasse works well. If you're asking what I'm using right now, Hi-Lustre.

By the time I get the surface polished, I'm not looking for something that will make it look better, I'm going for something that will let what I've done shine through. I'm looking for the most transparency and highest gloss. I don't want any cleaners or abrasives in my wax or sealant.

Robert

Accumulator · 10-08-09, 01:46

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Originally Posted by automints

Great point. I agree with that too. But then I'm thinking, why do some people invest thousands of dollars on waxes like swisvwax and whatever that Miracle Detail guy uses, compared to those that cost $20 a pop? Is it just the rich wanting something that others can't have?

Heh heh, there I'm afraid we *don't* agree. When somebody like lbsls1 says that Vintage gives him some special look, I don't argue. If somebody wants to spend [whatever] on something because [of some characteristic they value], it's cool with me...as long as they pay cash

I never argue with how anybody handles their discretionary purchases.

And I'm simply the wrong person with whom to discuss "the rich" in a derogatorily generalized way, at least the "American rich". The vast majority of the wealthy people of my acquaintance are as sensible and rational as people can be, and I'd even say that most of them are pretty tight with a buck.

Hey, nobody's gonna agree with *me* all the time

dheath · 10-08-09, 02:25

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Originally Posted by Satinsilver

Are you talking about DG AquaWax?

Correct...

automints · 10-08-09, 09:19

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

Heh heh, there I'm afraid we *don't* agree. When somebody like lbsls1 says that Vintage gives him some special look, I don't argue. If somebody wants to spend [whatever] on something because [of some characteristic they value], it's cool with me...as long as they pay cash

I never argue with how anybody handles their discretionary purchases.

And I'm simply the wrong person with whom to discuss "the rich" in a derogatorily generalized way, at least the "American rich". The vast majority of the wealthy people of my acquaintance are as sensible and rational as people can be, and I'd even say that most of them are pretty tight with a buck.

Hey, nobody's gonna agree with *me* all the time

I was just saying if the LSPs don't make very much difference, why are there such products that are so expensive and people willing to pay for them? Anyway, so as not to digress, thanks to everyone who made recommendations. I heard some good things about blackfire and opti-seal, too, maybe I'll give them a try. Any other recommendations will be very much appreciated.

Accumulator · 10-09-09, 07:49

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Originally Posted by automints

I was just saying if the LSPs don't make very much difference, why are there such products that are so expensive and people willing to pay for them?

Heh heh, sorry to have climbed up on my soapbox

The people here who *love* their Vintage seem to feel it's worth the money, but I guess that's primarily a matter of whether the cost is significant to the purchaser or not. For some folks, the way Vintage cleans up/sheds contamination is worth the expense, and I can appreciate that.

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.. I heard some good things about blackfire...

I found BF does a *very* noticeable darkening effect, pretty astounding IMO. Not sure how that would work out on white, never tried it. Who knows, maybe it'd be a way to get some depth out of a white paint