Oh, so you're a Detailer? You work for a dealership? - Page 5

David Fermani · 09-26-09, 09:36

I wonder what's worse - The hack detailer doing the job themselves or the shop they send them to?

Accumulator · 09-26-09, 09:38

David Fermani- Actually, IMO the same traits that were behind his decisions regarding his education and career were a big part of why he did good detailing work. He was simply an admirable guy in every respect. I doubt he ever half-@$$ed anything in his life.

gmblack3a · 09-26-09, 09:43

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Originally Posted by todd@bsaw

We then got into a discussion on how much I charge for a detail and he replied, "Wow, you're really ripping people off."

He walked away laughing and it took all my strength to not throw a wrench at the back of his head.

I seem to remember a "detailer" here on Autopia claiming they some of us are ripping people off as it takes us more then 6 hours to do a full correction exterior.

David Fermani · 09-26-09, 09:46

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

David Fermani- Actually, IMO the same traits that were behind his decisions regarding his education and career were a big part of why he did good detailing work. He was simply an admirable guy in every respect. I doubt he ever half-@$$ed anything in his life.

Sounds like a diamond in the rough.

David Fermani · 09-26-09, 09:50

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Originally Posted by gmblack3a

I seem to remember a "detailer" here on Autopia claiming they some of us are ripping people off as it takes us more then 6 hours to do a full correction exterior.

This place has a tendancy of changing people's thought process on detailing & paint correction and can certainly humble many that seem to know it all.

Accumulator · 09-26-09, 09:56

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Originally Posted by David Fermani

This place has a tendancy of changing people's thought process on detailing & paint correction and can certainly humble many that seem to know it all.

Some...but not all

But the operative word there was "SEEM"

AeroCleanse · 09-26-09, 10:19

As I live near said dealer, I know they don't do a very good job. I've seen new cars on the lot that have holograms and swirls.

bufferbarry · 09-26-09, 11:45

I have worked for a dealership that was pretty understanding about time. The problem here though isn't the detailer. They truely don't know any better. there taught one way and thats it. Several years back when I first learned the guy who was my biggest influence said to me. I'm gonna show you how to do it the right way. once you learn that I'm gonna show you the money way. In this field I hate to say it. Most people truly don't care about a fully corrected car. In our line of work I woud have to say the smartest of them when it comes to making money is the tunnel guys. They make the most. I know of several guys who have high volume shops that make a ton of money in my town. There hacking up 200 plus cars a week,with 10 - 15 employees and of to the auction they go. I had this conversation the other night with a very respected detailer. HOw are we making money? is it easier to wash and wax a car? or is it easier to perfect a car and probaly lose a little in the end. If your in this business full time you have to learn to make money. Funny thing is we sit here and ***** about all this as that hack makes money and the dealership gets richer. Then the tunnel guy gets even richer? Is throwing the wrench at this kid needed? Or is educating him on the proper aspects of the business a better way to do it?

mikenap · 09-26-09, 12:15

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Originally Posted by bufferbarry

I have worked for a dealership that was pretty understanding about time. The problem here though isn't the detailer. They truely don't know any better. there taught one way and thats it. Several years back when I first learned the guy who was my biggest influence said to me. I'm gonna show you how to do it the right way. once you learn that I'm gonna show you the money way. In this field I hate to say it. Most people truly don't care about a fully corrected car. In our line of work I woud have to say the smartest of them when it comes to making money is the tunnel guys. They make the most. I know of several guys who have high volume shops that make a ton of money in my town. There hacking up 200 plus cars a week,with 10 - 15 employees and of to the auction they go. I had this conversation the other night with a very respected detailer. HOw are we making money? is it easier to wash and wax a car? or is it easier to perfect a car and probaly lose a little in the end. If your in this business full time you have to learn to make money. Funny thing is we sit here and ***** about all this as that hack makes money and the dealership gets richer. Then the tunnel guy gets even richer? Is throwing the wrench at this kid needed? Or is educating him on the proper aspects of the business a better way to do it?

Well said Barry. There is a lot to think about when trying to apply Autopian standards to the world at large. Not everybody is in it for the art, or the challenge, or the love of cars. This here is a small community, and while we can b***h about how we would do it differently, Autopians are still a minority.

But in the end, the kid was a douche. So yes, he deserves the wrench.

Jakerooni · 09-26-09, 02:53

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Originally Posted by gmblack3a

I seem to remember a "detailer" here on Autopia claiming they some of us are ripping people off as it takes us more then 6 hours to do a full correction exterior.

Bryan your the master of taking words out of context and twisting them to fit your own jealous little needs. You really should check into therapy or something to see if you can somehow find a way past all this negitve attitude you seem to have on here. Maybe once you actually have a little intellegence and can see past your own ego you'll find the right words and see the meaning behind it. You obviously lack basic social skills and are only here to cause trouble anymore... I feel for you man because you do have some great skills. I wouldn't personally call you the best like so many others have but you are really good. If you'd only change your petty little attitude about everything and realise you're seriously NOT god's gift to detailing like you seem to feel you are you'd go so much farther in this world.

To the rest of the board. I'm sorry Bryan keeps trying to aggitate me and draw me into some sort of net argument to make himself feel better about himself or something. I hate wasting space on this site dealing with him so I tend to ignore most of his snide little jibs he likes to toss out. But I felt he's being going unchecked long enough. 99% of the stupid comments he makes are directed at me in case anyone cares. Please feel free to ignore his post as I tend to for the most part anymore.

David Fermani · 09-26-09, 03:26

There's been people critizing folks for taking their time on details long before you joined Jake. I actually ripped on people at 1st until I changed my customer focus. You spent how long on that car...???? I'm eating crow now big time.

I kinda like these differences in opinion conflicts. Makes for interesting discussion as long as tempers don't get too flared. People need to be more honest on here IMHO. Way too much sugar coated opinions.

Jakerooni · 09-26-09, 03:36

LOL true dave... And I think we all know I'm not much for suger coating.... But in this instance I know exactly what bryan is trying to quote... It's not a big deal. I still have a lot of respect for his skills.. I just wish he would find something else to focus his energies on ya know.... get's rather boring after awhile.