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Old 10-13-08, 12:48   #1 (permalink)
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Found Dalton's 61 steps...

i laughed pretty hard at this... any quality detailer does this on every detail.

and some steps are completely un-necessary...

THE 61 STAGES

1. Rinse vehicle with 30C purified water
2. Spray citrus degreaser on entire car
3. Repeat rinse
4. Wash top half of vehicle with pure warm water and shampoo
5. Repeat rinse
6. Wash top half of vehicle with pure warm water and shampoo
7. Repeat rinse
8. Spray citrus cleaner inside arches
9. Repeat rinse
10. Decontaminate paint and windows with clay mixed with secret solution
11. Repeat rinse
12. Wash entire car with pure warm water and shampoo mix
13. Repeat rinse
14. Dry vehicle with microfibre towels
15. Apply wheel cleaner and brush
16. Repeat rinse
17. Turn wheels 180 degrees
18. Reapply wheel cleaner and brush
19. Repeat rinse
20. Dry wheels
21. Dry door, engine and boot edges
22. Blow compressed air in cracks and towel dry
23. Measure all paintwork in microns (1/1,000mm)
24. Sand paint to remove orange peel, scratches and swirls
25. Sand paint to remove orange peel, scratches and swirls
26. Sand paint to remove orange peel, scratches and swirls
27. Sand paint to remove orange peel, scratches and swirls
28. Re-measure paintwork
29. Pre-wax cleaner to paintwork
30. Remove pre-wax cleaner with towel
31. ***** ****** wax applied to paintwork
32. Remove wax
33. Buff windows
34. Windows cleaned inside and out
35. Interior vacuumed thoroughly
36. Clean interior trim
37. Clean and shampoo carpets and mats
38. Clean leather
39. Dry leather with cotton towels
40. Condition leather and buff
41. Clean interior with compressed air brush
42. Pre-wax cleaner to door edges
43. Condition and preserve door rubbers
44. ***** ****** wax applied to door edges
45. Tyres dried to a satin finish
46. Exterior trim cleaned and conditioned
47. Clean wheels using clay mixed with secret solution
48. Clean and polish wheels
49. Pre-wax cleaner to wheels
50. ***** ****** wax applied to wheels
51. Final buff with small cloth
52. Windows cleaned inside and out again
53-55. Additional ***** ****** wax layer application, buffed twice
56-58. Repeat above wax application
59-61. Repeat final wax application

Cost: £4,800 (Excluding travel and accommodation expenses outside UK.)
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Old 10-13-08, 12:49   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Found Dalton's 61 steps...

and why is he sanding the paint?....

i only wetsand when necessary to remove defects or EXTREME orange peel.
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Old 10-13-08, 01:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Found Dalton's 61 steps...

That's listed on his website I believe. Am I correct?
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Re: Found Dalton's 61 steps...

Your right, but he has niche market obviously catering to people with lots of disposable income. He has to justify that price with something right?
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Re: Found Dalton's 61 steps...

Why are steps 24 - 27 the same? Rip off! This detail may only be worth £4,400!
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Re: Found Dalton's 61 steps...

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That's listed on his website I believe. Am I correct?
Yea it was in an article written about him

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Your right, but he has niche market obviously catering to people with lots of disposable income. He has to justify that price with something right?
Yes... and the way he should justify it is be the best in the world... not just say he is the best.

When there is no need to wet sand... why would you?

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Why are steps 24 - 27 the same? Rip off! This detail may only be worth £4,400!
lol.... I know people who do a better job for 1/2 the price... todd how much would you charge again haha.
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Re: Found Dalton's 61 steps...

Where does he polish after sanding? Is that an EXTRA 2500 pounds???
 
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Re: Found Dalton's 61 steps...

24-27 probably includes compounding. If he wetsands the entire vehicle than 4,800 pounds isn't unreasonable.
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Re: Found Dalton's 61 steps...

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24-27 probably includes compounding. If he wetsands the entire vehicle than 4,800 pounds isn't unreasonable.
Very true, I priced a full OP removal job on a very large car and the total hours spent were 25 hours sanding 30 hours polishing is 55 hours times $75 equals $4125 total.

I charge extra for hype...
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Re: Found Dalton's 61 steps...

If he is going to sell a detail for that much, customers are going to want to know whats involved. His details are very extensive, so it's worthy of an extensive treatment. I haven't seen anyone list their steps with that much detail before which shows how much he pays attention to them (the details). All that really matters is if he does quality work, which he does. If he did shoddy work for that much then sure, make a big deal. However, he is taking the level of detailing to a higher level, perfect for exotic car owners who have money and who truly care about their vehicles and want the highest amount of detail as possible. I'll admit I am very jealous about his skills and would love to be in his shoes. However, he doesn't deserve threads like these ... we should be looking up to him, not nit-picking.
 
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Re: Found Dalton's 61 steps...

It's basically a full exterior and interior detail, with sanding (why is this needed except for RIDS?) and a few other things added in.

For 4800 GBP, or roughly $8200, I would feel like a thief. That is $136/hour, at 60 hours on the detail. I am all for charging what you feel what you are worth, but that is insane. I wouldn't charge that even if people were willing to pay it.
 
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Re: Found Dalton's 61 steps...

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lol.... I know people who do a better job for 1/2 the price... todd how much would you charge again haha.
How do you qualify this statement. You're commenting on his process, not any posted results.

I'm with Budman3. There's a lot to learn from the quality of work Dalton puts out.
 
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