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07-23-08, 09:10
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TSC17 is offline
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 318 | Avg time range for polishing? I realize it depends on a whole lot of different factors, but I wanted to get some feedback from others on what their average time range is for different jobs.
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1-step polish...wash, clay, tape, wheels/wells, 1-step all surfaces, wax, basic interior detail. Light or moderate swirls. 8-10 hours for me in most cases.
2-step polish. Same as above, but going for (close to) full correction on most vehicles. 10-14 hours for me in most cases.
I understand we all do different levels of work, and work on a wide range of vehicles, but please give me some feedback based on what you're used to doing.
Thanks!
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07-23-08, 09:53
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Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chicago USA Posts: 875 | Re: Avg time range for polishing? Quote:
Originally Posted by TSC17 I realize it depends on a whole lot of different factors, but I wanted to get some feedback from others on what their average time range is for different jobs.
For instance:
1-step polish...wash, clay, tape, wheels/wells, 1-step all surfaces, wax, basic interior detail. Light or moderate swirls. 8-10 hours for me in most cases.
2-step polish. Same as above, but going for (close to) full correction on most vehicles. 10-14 hours for me in most cases.
I understand we all do different levels of work, and work on a wide range of vehicles, but please give me some feedback based on what you're used to doing.
Thanks! | For 1-step polish (1-step for me means 1 polishing step but not an AIO... so polish, then seal) I average about 7-8 hours on average sized cars (Toyota Camry for example)... and for each polishing step it's about 1.5hrs for the same car, so 2-step would be roughly 9-10hrs avg.
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07-23-08, 04:52
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toyotaguy is offline
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: orange county, ca Posts: 2,145 | Re: Avg time range for polishing? WAYYYYYYYY to long for a one step...what are you doing that takes 7-8 hours on a car for a one step???
for a one step - no taping necessary
two step will only remove about 80% of defects on MOST trashed cars - the deeper swirling will still be present, along with some RIDS
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on a side note, what is a step...
to me, if you hit the same panel with Megs 83 4 times, you are 4 stepping the car. however many times around the car you go is the amount of steps you are taking
a one step with megs 83 three times on each panel is not a one step job!
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07-23-08, 05:07
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Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chicago USA Posts: 875 | Re: Avg time range for polishing? Quote:
Originally Posted by toyotaguy WAYYYYYYYY to long for a one step...what are you doing that takes 7-8 hours on a car for a one step???
for a one step - no taping necessary
two step will only remove about 80% of defects on MOST trashed cars - the deeper swirling will still be present, along with some RIDS
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on a side note, what is a step...
to me, if you hit the same panel with Megs 83 4 times, you are 4 stepping the car. however many times around the car you go is the amount of steps you are taking
a one step with megs 83 three times on each panel is not a one step job! | That is a step to me as well... 1-step being going with 1 pad/polish combo around the entire car... as for why it takes "so long" I'm not sure... washing, drying, claying usually takes a while, and sometimes I'll drag on the test spots just to make sure I'm doing the best 1-step I can do... also some interior work is done in those 7-8 hours.
What's your reasoning behind not taping for 1-step? Do you damage trim on 2nd step only haha
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07-23-08, 05:27
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Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 672 | Re: Avg time range for polishing? agreed way to long for a 1 step, I get a 1 step done in 4 hours on a Ford Taurus sized car, and 5.5 hours if I drag my feet and talk and such....no stopping or anything and 4 hours.
1 step - start to finish in 4 - 5 hours
2 step - start to finish in 5 - 6 hours (I average 7 hours here)
I dont tape at all, never really thought about doing it.
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07-23-08, 05:32
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lecchilo is offline
Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chicago USA Posts: 875 | Re: Avg time range for polishing? Quote:
Originally Posted by bwalker25 agreed way to long for a 1 step, I get a 1 step done in 4 hours on a Ford Taurus sized car, and 5.5 hours if I drag my feet and talk and such....no stopping or anything and 4 hours.
1 step - start to finish in 4 - 5 hours
2 step - start to finish in 5 - 6 hours (I average 7 hours here)
I dont tape at all, never really thought about doing it. | Do you clay?
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07-23-08, 06:05
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Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: S. Florida Posts: 3,006 | Re: Avg time range for polishing? Unless your quick glazing over a finish, I can't see how anyone can properly do a 1-step polish(with any level of correction) in less than 6-8 hours *from start to finish*. For me to properly wash>clay>tape>test panel>polish>wash>solvent wipe down>LSP an entire vehicle, it's an all day (10-12 hrs) process MINIMUM. If someone can do all this (properly) in 1/2 the time, I need to retire while I'm still young OR lower my standards of quality.
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07-23-08, 06:20
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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 170 | Re: Avg time range for polishing? I think it all depends on pricing/willingness/experience..
Like david says a great one step will take long but most customer will be happy with a 4 h job (and pricing), but 4 h! is pushing it... | |
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07-23-08, 06:30
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Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: IN Posts: 685 | Re: Avg time range for polishing? 1 step - 6-8 hours
2+ step - 10+ hours
This would be on most 4 door daily drivers, not a SUV/minibus. Wash, clay, tape, polish, IPA, trim/tires dressed, and one LSP on paint/rims. I can't ever see myself getting done much faster than the times listed above without taking shortcuts/lowering my standard of quality. | |
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07-23-08, 07:04
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Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,113 | Re: Avg time range for polishing? First of all what machines are you using in a one step?
For a one step I would use a PC not a rotary and to wash, clay, 1 step polishing, and full interior would take me about 4-5 hours max.
I don't do one step polishing with the rotary so I don't know. If I have to pull out the rotary then I am doing a full correction and that will really vary, but most take at least 8-10 hours for me to get it where I want it.
Josh
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07-23-08, 07:18
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Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles County, California Posts: 506 | Re: Avg time range for polishing? Quote:
Originally Posted by JoshVette First of all what machines are you using in a one step?
For a one step I would use a PC not a rotary and to wash, clay, 1 step polishing, and full interior would take me about 4-5 hours max.
I don't do one step polishing with the rotary so I don't know. If I have to pull out the rotary then I am doing a full correction and that will really vary, but most take at least 8-10 hours for me to get it where I want it.
Josh | One step no buffer!!  Want/need buffer, show me the money! Quote:
For a one step I would use a PC not a rotary and to wash, clay, 1 step polishing, and full interior would take me about 4-5 hours max.
I don't do one step polishing with the rotary so I don't know. If I have to pull out the rotary then I am doing a full correction and that will really vary, but most take at least 8-10 hours for me to get it where I want it.
| Those are about my numbers as well.
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07-24-08, 03:08
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| | Esoteric Auto Detail
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Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 318 | Re: Avg time range for polishing? Quote:
Originally Posted by David Fermani Unless your quick glazing over a finish, I can't see how anyone can properly do a 1-step polish(with any level of correction) in less than 6-8 hours *from start to finish*. For me to properly wash>clay>tape>test panel>polish>wash>solvent wipe down>LSP an entire vehicle, it's an all day (10-12 hrs) process MINIMUM. If someone can do all this (properly) in 1/2 the time, I need to retire while I'm still young OR lower my standards of quality. | My feelings exactly...well stated.
I know...perhaps polish breaks down faster in other people's garages!
Seriously though, about all I could do in those short times is merely apply polish with very little correction. And I'm sure there are customers out there that would be happy with a little extra shine. But even when I'm doing a one-step (one polish/one pad combo...but possibly multiple passes in areas), I go for as much correction as possible, and charge by the hour.
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