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Old 01-21-08, 01:26   #1 (permalink)
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"well i can just go to carspa"

every time i try to sell a detail, even if it's just a basic wash/clay/wax everyone uses the excuse "i can just go to car spa and get the same thing for $30" or some other place. ill explain to them the differences between washing 25 cars in 1 hour and me washing 1 car in 4 hours. people just dont seem to understand and would rather waste their money to have their car run through the brushes.


do you guys ever get this kind of stuff?

dont get me wrong, there are people out there that would rather have my services, but for the most part people would rater just get their paint swirled and interior greased up...i guess?
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Old 01-21-08, 01:58   #2 (permalink)
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Re: "well i can just go to carspa"

Can they get the same thing for $30?

What makes you different from Carspa (sp)?

Sounds like you are not selling hard enough for people to justify the price increase.
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Old 01-21-08, 02:14   #3 (permalink)
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Re: "well i can just go to carspa"

Exactly bro sell yourself!

It looks like once they drop that line you become defenseless. Perhaps when you are exclaiming to them about the price increase, visually show them the differance in your services compared to the "brush".

People want to see what there results are going to look like as in a picture, rather than exclaimed in words what it could look/will look like. Give that reassurance.

Try to keep your car, or a just detailed vehicle in site as an advertisement for people to see. Rather there driving by, or talking to you next to a vehicle that is BLINDING them from the sunlight gleaming off of it.

Sounds like it would be fustrating, but tell yourself that you are not allowing "carspa" have this client!
 
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Old 01-21-08, 02:17   #4 (permalink)
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Re: "well i can just go to carspa"

Do you actually explain to them that claybaring is like exfoliating the paint and getting out all the contamination, like a deep cleansing? or are you just telling them you take alot longer to wash a car??

Do you explain to them how oil based interior products atract dust and dry out the vinyl and leathers??

Sounds like you need to educate yourself about your products so you'll have a winning arguement.

So tell us what makes you better then car spa?
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Old 01-21-08, 02:27   #5 (permalink)
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Re: "well i can just go to carspa"

I got this off of their site. Detail Packages


It should be easy to beat this crappy service. Look at the first package where they do polishing. What exactly does "Precision applied" high quality polish mean. Do they use a DA or Rotary? What type of correction are they really going to accomplish if they hand polish? Not very much, unless Scottwax is doing it.

Just on this fact alone you should be able to sell your customer on your services and get them away from CarSpa. This list makes me angry, with the kind of wool they try to pull over customer's eyes.

$99.00 for a crap detail, that probaly damaged the car more than helping it.

Seriously study this list and see where your services differ. The best way of getting customers is studying your enemy. Believe me, this enemy should not be that hard to beat with the crap that they are offering.
 
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Old 01-21-08, 02:38   #6 (permalink)
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Re: "well i can just go to carspa"

Man Josh! You really know what you are talking about here! lol... I feel like an idiot! I am defiantly going to keep an eye on this thread because i have to be able to beet these hacks verbally! Im defenatly remembering about the oil based products on leather and vinyl and all the other stuff you said!
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Old 01-21-08, 02:45   #7 (permalink)
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Re: "well i can just go to carspa"

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Do you actually explain to them that claybaring is like exfoliating the paint and getting out all the contamination, like a deep cleansing?

Good one. Just when I was patting myself on the back about marketing


Give the client an EXPERIENCE and they will pay you.


Example: I am getting $700+ per car right now from my clients. Granted I only do 1 per week, its a weekend thing. But I am investigating partnering with a local shop that is getting $400 to start, average bill $500, for a detail. He is a marketing machine, pumping a true spa like experience down the throats of local car owners.

Sell, Sell, Sell.
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Old 01-21-08, 03:16   #8 (permalink)
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Re: "well i can just go to carspa"

Maybe you are not projecting a professional image to your potential customers. How are these people hearing about you? Do you detail as a profession, or just part time? Are you licensed and insured? Do you have business name, and what is it. If people do not perceive you as being 'professional' they may be reluctant to pay you for a quality detail no matter how good you explain the process.
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Old 01-21-08, 03:26   #9 (permalink)
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Re: "well i can just go to carspa"

I agree with alot of the previous posts. You need to present yourself professionally and arm yourself with all the right info. Have the answers for your customer because one of you are going to be sold. You are going to sell your customers on why you are better by having the ultimate in product and the skill sets to get the job done right, or they are going to sell you on why they cant spend the money and I dont know about you but, them selling me anything is just simply not an option.

You are always going to have someone you just cant tell anything. Those kind of customers are out there for sure but a little preperation and knowledge is probably just what you need to be a more effective salesman! They came to you because they want to spend the money, you just need to give them permission to buy!

Happy selling! I think you will get alot of good out of this thread. Keep us posted on your success!

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Old 01-21-08, 04:04   #10 (permalink)
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Re: "well i can just go to carspa"

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Good one. Just when I was patting myself on the back about marketing


Give the client an EXPERIENCE and they will pay you.


Example: I am getting $700+ per car right now from my clients. Granted I only do 1 per week, its a weekend thing. But I am investigating partnering with a local shop that is getting $400 to start, average bill $500, for a detail. He is a marketing machine, pumping a true spa like experience down the throats of local car owners.

Sell, Sell, Sell.

$700 per car is great? or do you mean $700 per week no matter how many cars you do?? I'm a bit confused?

If $700 per car, that's a great average, what are you doing for that price?

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Old 01-21-08, 04:09   #11 (permalink)
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Re: "well i can just go to carspa"

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$700 per car is great? or do you mean $700 per week no matter how many cars you do?? I'm a bit confused?

If $700 per car, that's a great average, what are you doing for that price?

Josh


Yeah really.... That's a good market around there, all high end cars I'd assume.
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Re: "well i can just go to carspa"

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$700 per car is great? or do you mean $700 per week no matter how many cars you do?? I'm a bit confused?

If $700 per car, that's a great average, what are you doing for that price?

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1 car = $700.00. I only provide one service to my customers, a full detail.

I have a F/T business, non-car related, which I run during the week that keeps me fully exhausted from M-F. I just love to clean cars, I cant help it.
At $700 per visit, its currently not debatable by my wife as a waste of a Saturday or Sunday. I give her the money I make detailing to spend as she likes, minus supplies.
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