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Old 01-07-08, 09:43   #1 (permalink)
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Prices and packages?

gold Package: $300-375

Paint:
Wash
Clay
P21S Auto Wash (lower car)
SIP
ZPC
z5 (zfxed)
z6
z2/3
z8

Wheels:
P21S gel
Zaino AIO

Interior:
Shampoo carpets
Extract Carpets
Clean and Treat leather (leatherique)


Silver Package: $110-145 (depending on car)
Wash
(Clay?)
an aio... maybe KAIO or ZAIO
z5/KSG (or maybe another sealant)... maybe even a wax (idk which one tho)

wheels:
P21S gel

Interior:
303 wipedown


Wash:
30 dollars



Im wondering if you think these packages are good? How about the wax or sealant on the silver package? What about the prices?

The reason why i have the 2 is because i want to try to get a higher end clientele then toyota camrys and mini vans (and dont forget the ever so dirty contractors truck).
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Old 01-07-08, 11:19   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Prices and packages?

I am assuming this is including your expenses like business lisc, Ins, Gas, Bank, etc.
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Re: Prices and packages?

Nope! have not figured that in yet... i know bad of me huh. Tonight ile get a little more info on them and try to figure out more expenses.
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Re: Prices and packages?

in your gold package i think you are wasting your time putting 2 coats of z5 on, as one coat should do just fine if you are following it up with z2. or, depending on the color, do the 2 coats of z5 pro and leave out the z2. although zaino doesnt take that long to apply, its more material you are using, which cuts into your profit. also, for your AIO, i have not tried it yet but the xmt 360 looks like a really nice product. i havent seen many discussions about it on here so perhaps others can chime in... it supposedly has a little more cut than most aio's without sacrificing protection...

XMT 360 corrects, cleans, and seals auto paint! XMT 360 is more than a cleaner wax, its a swirl remover, polish, and paint sealant in one.
 
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Re: Prices and packages?

But 2 layers of z5 would give it longer protection.

As for a nice AIO... i might use that. I know that scottwax uses poli-seal, ile probably use do a test with poli-seal, ZAIO, XMT 360, KAIO, maybe a few others and decide which is better for me and my clientele.
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Re: Prices and packages?

Adding a second coat of Z5 and a final coat of Z2 would be lucky to add 5% extra gloss to the paint.

That time would be better spent on other area's in my opinion. You could easily gain that 5% in other areas that are quicker and cheaper. Moving the paint correction up a few notches or using a beauty wax would make a bigger difference.

For the cheaper silver details i'd look at Meguiars #66 quick detailer with a spray wax such as duragloss aquawax. As this may even save a bit of time and money in products, you may be able to go over the bonnet and quarter panels with SIP quickly.

Im such a big fan of Meguiars #66 that i often use it on my high end packages also. #66 will pretty much eliminate the ZPC stage as it has light cutting power and has the gloss and depth of Z5. On cars that dont require much paint correction i'll often use poliseal for its added protection as i'll usually have a bit of extra time/money on the good cars.

On bad paint jobs i've gone straight from Menzerna powergloss on a wool pad on the rotary to Meguiars #66 on a random orbital. So full paint correction and protection added in only two steps. I then go over the car with aquawax as a final wipedown and a gloss enhancer. Then when the customers come back for their yearly detail i go over the car with just #66 and it removes any slight swirls from the last 12 months.

But definitely get some Meguiars #66 you wont be dissapointed if you do lots of bulk work. Having tried XMT360, it seems the same as Meguiars #66, except it costs 10 times as much as it only comes in smaller bottles.

Is there any reason you want such long protection? Dont the customers return again?
 
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Re: Prices and packages?

Ok... maybe ile just skip the 2nd z5 lol. But i wouldnt replace ZPC... it replaces the 50/50 wipedown.
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Re: Prices and packages?

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Is there any reason you want such long protection? Dont the customers return again?
And yes i do want them to return but i feel im not doing the right thing if i dont give them the best possible detail that i can give them. lol... i just want to make sure that they are EXTREMELY happy with there cars so they will pass the word around... if im not giving the best that i can then why am i even doing it. If im going to try to do something im going to try to the best of my ability. But you are right... just z5 and z2/3 will do good enough!
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Re: Prices and packages?

I've got a gallon of #66 if you're interested. I agree with TTWAGN that it is good stuff, especially on dark colors.
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Re: Prices and packages?

ttwagn put it right. the 30 min to 1 hr it will take you to apply the 2nd z5 coat will definitely be better spent on some of the finishing details, even if its just taking some extra care on the door jambs with some AIO or something.
 
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Re: Prices and packages?

Focus on the polishing, not the layering. That is where you will get your best results.
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Re: Prices and packages?

O... that is also in there... i just thought it would be unnecessary to list. But yea you are right... im guna stick with 1 coat of z5.
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