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    How are you measuring durability if beading isn't necessarily a sign of protection?
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    Quote: Originally Posted by D&D Auto Detail View Post
    How are you measuring durability if beading isn't necessarily a sign of protection?
    I'm not measuring protection, that's how.

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    So you're measuring how long water beads on the paint? Interesting...

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    Quote: Originally Posted by D&D Auto Detail View Post
    So you're measuring how long water beads on the paint? Interesting...
    If you have some sort of other test protocol, I'd love to hear it. I've experimented with all sorts of stuff like acids, bases even getting some pancreatin (enzyme in bird poo), I can't seem to work out any method that is repeatable. Short of harvesting real bird poo and bug guts, I'm at a loss.

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    Ok, well, I think the Speed and Poxy are done. This is one of the few experiments where I actually got the result I expected! Through years of playing around with various combinations, I've noticed there is little reason to top an AIO unless you are using something significantly more durable, 845IW is a great choice. But why bother using the AIO if you are topping anyway?

    So as it stands, Speed+Poxy was no more durable for me than just Speed. ZAIO did great as expected. I wonder if the ZAIO topped with DG would have done better, but I don't really care to wait 4-6 months for the ZAIO to wear off. Pictures and videos for your viewing pleasure:








    Minor bird bomb etching, what was interesting is the bomb was pea sized droplets that went from the ZAIO side all the way to the fender. It looked like the same batch, but who knows. The Speed fender was fine, the ZAIO side was fine. The worn out speed area was not.


    In closing, Speed is a nice product, easy to work with, and great immediate results. Also, putting on another layer of Poxy appears to be a waste of time. If you want to do two steps, go Polish+Poxy, or just use an AIO as it was intened...not topped!

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    Im curious, how many days was the test? How many times did it get rained on? How many times did you wash it? And what techniques/tools did you use in washing? (So I can compare to what I do and estimate if my results would be comparable.)

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    Thanks for all the work on this Dan. Very interesting.
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    Quote: Originally Posted by Brad B. View Post
    Im curious, how many days was the test? How many times did it get rained on? How many times did you wash it? And what techniques/tools did you use in washing?
    I ended up going a few days shy of six weeks. We've had some REALLY intense heat here and frequent showers coming through, probably three strong thunderstorms per week, so figure about 15 rainfalls, about 1/4 of those being on hot paint, which LSPs seem to dislike. Not to shabby by AIO standards, certainly better that Poliseal, FK215/2180, M66/D151, etc.

    IIRC, I did two ONR washes, one Opticlean wipedown and one traditional wash with Zaino carwash, I was trying to be kind the Speed and not kill it with my usual NXT wash. I'm in between pressure washer setup (and it sucks!) so I only used a regular hose.... and felt like a caveman!

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    Dan--Great test!! Thanks for putting in the time. Interesting how Zaino products get bashed by allot of people -- usually those who have never tried them. BTW--How did the DG section do in comparison to the ZAIO section??

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    Thanks, the DG looked the same as the Zaino, no difference yet, from past use, it'd take months to notice the difference. If it was winter time, I might let it go longer, but I love playing with LSPs in the summer.

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    Great test Dan, nice and thorough with conclusions too.

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