Autopia.org - #1 auto detailing forum for car enthusiasts and professional detailers.
Autopia.org Articles, Editorial & Blogs for Car Detailing Enthusiasts Autopia Reviews: Auto Detailing Car Wax, Polish, Cleaner, Protectant Reviews Detailing Products & Supplies Catalog
Go Back   Autopia.org > PROFESSIONAL AUTO DETAILING > Pro Details Before & After


Welcome to Autopia.org.


You are viewing as a guest.  By joining our FREE community you will be able to interact with others.  Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today.   When you join, this box is replaced with our live chat!

Autopia Marketplace

Reply
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes

Old 10-08-09, 11:49   #1 (permalink)
Rasky's Auto Detailing
 
RaskyR1's Avatar
 
RaskyR1 is offline
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shakopee, MN
Posts: 645
Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing

***Let me first start by saying that this car underwent a full repaint and that this is NOT something I recommend you do on a factory painted car to remove orange peel.***

This is actually my fiancée and the car, which got hammered with over $9k in hail damage! My father works at the body shop where the work was done and I offered to do the wet sanding and buffing in exchange for having the bumpers and side moldings painted….that and I didn’t really want them doing it anyway.

Originally I had planned on doing the work the same week I picked it up knowing just how hard these newer high solids clear coats can get. Unfortunately things kept coming up and the job kept getting pushed out. It was about 4-5 weeks time between when it was painted to when I started the work…not good.

As my past experience has shown, the clear was indeed rock hard! Probably the hardest I have ever worked on and my normal process for wet sanding had to be tweaked in order to work with this paint type.

Wet sanding process:

-3M P800 via DA with soft interface pad for initial leveling (I taped off the edges 1/16-1/8 away for this step since I wanted to avoid thinning an edge too much)
-3M P1500 grit via DA with soft interface pad.
-3M P3000 grit via DA with soft interface pad.

Buffing process:

- 3M Perfect-it 3000 extra cut rubbing compound via rotary and Meguiars Solo heavy cutting pad (cut faster than M95 and Power Gloss but left deep marring)
-Meguiars M95 via rotary and Meguiars Solo light cutting pad (removed heavy marring from the extra cut and picked up any pig tails I may have missed)
-Menzerna SIP via rotary and orange LC Classic pad (finished nicely)
-Meguiars M205 via PC7424XP and White LC Classic pad (removed any remaining buffer trails left behind from SIP)
-Menzerna PO85RD via rotary and black LC Classic pad (Icing on the cake!)

My choice of LSP was Blackfire Wet-Diamond.


Pre hail damage the paint on this car was actually like glass right from the factory. As you will see, after the car was painted it had some pretty serious orange peel, and to be honest, I wasn’t really happy with the way it came out. While my father did all the body work on the car, they do have dedicated painters at his shop so I couldn’t blame him in any way. They shop normally turn out top notch work. regardless, I didn’t feel it was so bad that it needed to be redone, but it definitely meant taking off more clear than I really wanted too in order to get it to the level it was at prior to the damage.

Before sanding I spoke with the manager about the paint thickness readings I found on all the new panels and wanted to ensure full paint warranty if I were to level the paint myself….which he assured me they would honor.

On with the pics!!!

Bad orange peel













Sanding in process












__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperBee364 View Post
*Nothing* is idiot proof; every time they make something idiot proof, someone builds a better idiot.

Last edited by RaskyR1 : 10-08-09 at 08:51.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Old 10-08-09, 11:51   #2 (permalink)
Rasky's Auto Detailing
 
RaskyR1's Avatar
 
RaskyR1 is offline
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shakopee, MN
Posts: 645
Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing

After pics!





























Brinkmann



Halogen



Flash (I like how this made the blue pearl POP)


I drove the car about 30 miles before these pics so there may be some light dust on the car…



























I didn’t keep track of my time on this job since I wasn’t getting paid to do it, but I'd guess I have around 40 hours invested….either way, I’d say the fiancée definitely owes me some serious luvin’!!!



Thanks For looking!


Rasky
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperBee364 View Post
*Nothing* is idiot proof; every time they make something idiot proof, someone builds a better idiot.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Old 10-08-09, 12:21   #3 (permalink)
Neat Freak
 
audicoupej's Avatar
 
audicoupej is offline
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Binghamton, NY
Posts: 939
Contact: Send a message via AIM to audicoupej
Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing

Awesome Work! How much clear did you have to level to get it looking good?

What kind of DA did you use for the wetsanding?
__________________
]ohn
JEMM Automotive Detailing
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Old 10-08-09, 12:23   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
KaPow is offline
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 20
Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing

Superb finish.

What DA do you use? It looks like your effort really paid off... not financially though (pity) but you did a great job so pat yourself on the back!!

Did you need to do a process on the lights as well?


KaPow..

Edit.. beaten to the DA question by 10 seconds!! Replying at the same time! LOL!
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Old 10-08-09, 12:40   #5 (permalink)
Rasky's Auto Detailing
 
RaskyR1's Avatar
 
RaskyR1 is offline
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shakopee, MN
Posts: 645
Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing

Quote:
Originally Posted by audicoupej View Post
Awesome Work! How much clear did you have to level to get it looking good?

What kind of DA did you use for the wetsanding?
Thanks!

Well I tested the hood first and went a little further on that panel to make sure I had enough paint to work with. I took off between 15-20 micron on the hood. I brought the car to the body shop the next day and showed the painter and manager the readings. I was acually a little upset they didn't put on more material on but the painter said anything more than 2 good coats and you risked solvent pop with the clear they used....not sure I buy that but what ever. I went lighter on the rest of the car though and my average PTG readings on the new panels are in the 95 Micron range.

I just used a cheap DA I bought a few years ago from Northern Tool...nothing special.

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperBee364 View Post
*Nothing* is idiot proof; every time they make something idiot proof, someone builds a better idiot.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Old 10-08-09, 12:44   #6 (permalink)
Rasky's Auto Detailing
 
RaskyR1's Avatar
 
RaskyR1 is offline
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shakopee, MN
Posts: 645
Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing

Quote:
Originally Posted by KaPow View Post
Superb finish.

What DA do you use? It looks like your effort really paid off... not financially though (pity) but you did a great job so pat yourself on the back!!

Did you need to do a process on the lights as well?


KaPow..

Edit.. beaten to the DA question by 10 seconds!! Replying at the same time! LOL!
Thanks! I did get the bumper covers and trim painted out of the deal, and I also didn't have some hack at the body shop wet sanding and buffing my car either, so I feel I came out well.


I only gave the lights a light polish with M205. I may sand the head light at a later date to remove the pitting but probably not until we got to sell it.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperBee364 View Post
*Nothing* is idiot proof; every time they make something idiot proof, someone builds a better idiot.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Old 10-08-09, 12:54   #7 (permalink)
Welcome 2 the KEVOLUTION
 
gmblack3a's Avatar
 
gmblack3a is offline
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 5,537
Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing

Great work Chad! The gloss level is off the chart!

I take it these where non-trizact sanding discs?
__________________
Bryan Burnworth..KBM w/ orange pad link tips
Peachstate Detail LLC...KBM w/ Surbuf pad link tips
"Paint Polishing Perfection"
Atlanta Detailing
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Old 10-08-09, 01:00   #8 (permalink)
Rasky's Auto Detailing
 
RaskyR1's Avatar
 
RaskyR1 is offline
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shakopee, MN
Posts: 645
Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing

Quote:
Originally Posted by gmblack3a View Post
Great work Chad! The gloss level is off the chart!

I take it these where non-trizact sanding discs?
Thanks Bryan!

The P3000 was the newer foam Trizact disks.


I fianlly started shooting my pics in manual mode too....seems to have made a noticable difference in picture quality.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperBee364 View Post
*Nothing* is idiot proof; every time they make something idiot proof, someone builds a better idiot.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Old 10-08-09, 02:05   #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
dsms's Avatar
 
dsms is offline
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,013
Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing

Serious work! Beautiful job
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Old 10-08-09, 03:38   #10 (permalink)
Advance Paint Correction
 
bufferbarry's Avatar
 
bufferbarry is offline
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,597
Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing

Rasky,
well you know I love the look of freshly sanded paint. I must say you tackled this job to perfection! Outstanding results. A pain doing them full sanding jobs, but when finished its off the charts. Lots of gloss and very flat. I love it!!!!
__________________
Barry Theal
Presidential Details
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Old 10-08-09, 04:13   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Darkstar752's Avatar
 
Darkstar752 is offline
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 351
Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing

Wow, that looks absolutely amazing. 5 Steps AFTER the sanding though? Wow haha, that's a lot of work!
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Old 10-08-09, 04:23   #12 (permalink)
Rasky's Auto Detailing
 
RaskyR1's Avatar
 
RaskyR1 is offline
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shakopee, MN
Posts: 645
Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing

Quote:
Originally Posted by dsms View Post
Serious work! Beautiful job
Thanks Dave!

Quote:
Originally Posted by bufferbarry View Post
Rasky,
well you know I love the look of freshly sanded paint. I must say you tackled this job to perfection! Outstanding results. A pain doing them full sanding jobs, but when finished its off the charts. Lots of gloss and very flat. I love it!!!!
Thanks Barry! It was definitely a lot of work but I feel it definitely paid off. Nothing like smooth black paint!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkstar752 View Post
Wow, that looks absolutely amazing. 5 Steps AFTER the sanding though? Wow haha, that's a lot of work!
Thanks!

I probably didn't have to do the final step but I think it definitely added a little extra pop!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperBee364 View Post
*Nothing* is idiot proof; every time they make something idiot proof, someone builds a better idiot.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Quick Detailing DavidB Guide to Detailing 0 11-10-06 02:13
Paint Clinic DavidB Guide to Detailing 0 11-10-06 02:10
Using the Porter Cable 7424 Car Polisher DavidB Guide to Detailing 0 11-10-06 02:09
Sonus SFX Ultra-Fine Detailing Clay DavidB Car Detailing Product Discussion 20 07-25-05 10:49
Interesting Read theveed Car Detailing 0 01-08-03 12:22



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:30.


Copyright (c), 1999-2009, Autopia.org - All Rights Reserved

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65