Black Nissan with 3500 miles - Page 3

Accumulator · 09-15-09, 09:04

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Originally Posted by ebpcivicsi

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Oh, Accumulator, I should have also noted that I *have* applied the UPP over the M205 without issue. ..--guess it has enough carrier-solvents to clean a little 205 oils.

Thanks for adding that.

I'm still using UPP over my old 1Z Pro MP, but I'd wondered about the M205's oils, with which I have kinda a love/hate relationship.

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IME, if 105 is worked properly (on most paints) the finish is just slighly/evenly hazed--mainly on the curves/body lines. Once the paint is at this point a *quick* buzz over with 205 and you are golden. I mean like half the hood with no pressure for about 30 seconds--

I'm still doing the M205/Griot's orange pad after M105, seems to work better for me. When I just use M205/finishing I sometimes still have *very* faint micromarring from the M105 (only visible under the SunGun in an otherwise dark room). No matter what I do (including #34 spritzes when I buff off the M105 residue), I always seem to get that almost-invisible hazing (drove me nuts on the YukonXL, as you can probably appreciate

) and the M205 seems to need something more than a finishing pad to fix it quickly/without a lot of work.

No, I don't think anybody would see this hazing without the SunGun, I can *sometimes* spot it in natural sunlight, but it's sure not the same. Mike Phillips and I were discussing this and he agrees that the SunGun is somehow even more demanding than sunlight in this way.

Heh heh, I kinda have a love/hate relationship with that SunGun too!

mshu7 · 09-16-09, 06:29

Joe -

As always, impeccable work! I love seeing your work.

Superior__Shine · 09-16-09, 06:49

Isn't that the self healing paint? Awesome work but...... if it is THE SELF HEALING PAINT I am all the more impressed.

NRZ · 09-16-09, 06:55

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That;s for sure! We have really had a run of "fun" paint lately.

bigal, it's really a cool car IMO. We have done two and though I haven't had any seat-time with the car, my initial impressions of the car are favorable.

NRZ, I buy them locally, but they are the same as any green pad that you can buy at any retailer/sponsor--no real difference that I detect.... We used the 6" version which is not for beginners IMO, but it can be done.

Thanks again everyone.

Oh, Accumulator, I should have also noted that I *have* applied the UPP over the M205 without issue. Durability *might* have been affected, but I really don't know. You know, the vehciles that we monitor get weekly OCW treatments.

I didn't get any wierd "cloudy" issues with the UPP over the 205--guess it has enough carrier-solvents to clean a little 205 oils.

Could you explain how you used the green pad? I may be a beginnner (only three years just scratching the surface) but I want to learn which is why I scan the threads by all you great professionals.

So, by looking online its looks like the green is a pad right in the middle of an orange and white, but what makes it harder or not for a beginner?

ebpcivicsi · 09-17-09, 05:18

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

Thanks for adding that.

I'm still using UPP over my old 1Z Pro MP, but I'd wondered about the M205's oils, with which I have kinda a love/hate relationship.

I'm still doing the M205/Griot's orange pad after M105, seems to work better for me. When I just use M205/finishing I sometimes still have *very* faint micromarring from the M105 (only visible under the SunGun in an otherwise dark room). No matter what I do (including #34 spritzes when I buff off the M105 residue), I always seem to get that almost-invisible hazing (drove me nuts on the YukonXL, as you can probably appreciate

) and the M205 seems to need something more than a finishing pad to fix it quickly/without a lot of work.

No, I don't think anybody would see this hazing without the SunGun, I can *sometimes* spot it in natural sunlight, but it's sure not the same. Mike Phillips and I were discussing this and he agrees that the SunGun is somehow even more demanding than sunlight in this way.

Heh heh, I kinda have a love/hate relationship with that SunGun too!

I can certainly appreciate that!

Have you tried to remove the left over M105 haze with a Meguiars finishing pad(the black one)? It seems to work really well for us too. I would use these pads exclusively, but I can buy two flat red pads locally for the price of one of the Meguiars pads. I do keep a few of the meg's black finishing pads around for when I need a litle more cut for finishing up. I guess that's what makes polishing paint so cool (and so frustrating at times), just soooo many variables!

I can't remember--where does the griots orange pad fall in repsect to say a LC flat orange pad? I remember you saying that they differ in cut, but can't remember which way.

ebpcivicsi · 09-17-09, 05:21

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Originally Posted by Superior__Shine

Isn't that the self healing paint? Awesome work but...... if it is THE SELF HEALING PAINT I am all the more impressed.

This car did not have the self-healing paint as far as I know. I asked the owner, said that he did not pay the premium for it. I could not find the window sticker to confirm.

Have you worked on any of the self-healing paint? I would have to guess that it's a little different when polishing. We had another GTR in the shop for paint protection film that had the self-healing paint--it had marring all over it(very faint) that I guess it couldn't heal.

ebpcivicsi · 09-17-09, 05:24

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Originally Posted by NRZ

Could you explain how you used the green pad? I may be a beginnner (only three years just scratching the surface) but I want to learn which is why I scan the threads by all you great professionals.

So, by looking online its looks like the green is a pad right in the middle of an orange and white, but what makes it harder or not for a beginner?

Sorry, should have been more specific--I only say that becasue of the size of the pad and using it on the flex. I would say that as a beginner you would want to use a 6.5" pad on the flex in order to avoid accidents with the backing plate. The larger pads will give you a bit more room for error. The grade of the pad had nothing to do with the "warning."

I use the green pad just as you would any pad--apply polish, make enough passes to complete correction, and stop.

Hope this helps.

Thanks guys!

Accumulator · 09-17-09, 08:51

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Originally Posted by ebpcivicsi

Have you tried to remove the left over M105 haze with a Meguiars finishing pad(the black one)?

No, I haven't. I got one as a freebie with an AutoGeek order, but I didn't want to use something that I only had one of (if that makes any sense). I'll give it a try sometime though, everything that works well for you seems to do well for me too.

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I can't remember--where does the griots orange pad fall in repsect to say a LC flat orange pad? I remember you saying that they differ in cut, but can't remember which way.

The Griot's is more gentle than other orange pads. More cut than a regular polishing pad. I'd say it's sorta like some of the various green pads...hard for me to keep all those different green ones straight

But it finishes out *VERY* well. If I could only have *one* pad for everything (compounding to waxing), this would be it.

Scottwax · 09-17-09, 10:41

Outstanding recovery!

gofast908z · 09-17-09, 01:23

Excellent work on a cool car! What a transformation!

NRZ · 09-17-09, 01:48

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Originally Posted by ebpcivicsi

Sorry, should have been more specific--I only say that becasue of the size of the pad and using it on the flex. I would say that as a beginner you would want to use a 6.5" pad on the flex in order to avoid accidents with the backing plate. The larger pads will give you a bit more room for error. The grade of the pad had nothing to do with the "warning."

I use the green pad just as you would any pad--apply polish, make enough passes to complete correction, and stop.

Hope this helps.

Thanks guys!

Got it, thank you for clearing that up. I use an orange pad in 6 inch sometimes and I actually find that I am more careful with it to avoid damage.

David Fermani · 09-19-09, 03:34

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Originally Posted by ebpcivicsi

We had another GTR in the shop for paint protection film that had the self-healing paint--it had marring all over it(very faint) that I guess it couldn't heal.

Great work as usual. Add this one to the pile of crappy GTR paint. Total fail on the part of Nissan IMHO.