Teaser of the Year! - Page 8

David Fermani · 02-22-09, 05:59

I clay with my ring on all the time.

Reading threads doesn't make you a better detailer. Becoming a proficient detailer requires years of hands on experience. Nobody I know of became a pro from reading forums. After learning things here, they still need a certain amount of touch time to perfect. The last thing I'd ever suggest someone wanting to learn how to detail a Lambo would be to read some threads about it. That's obviously where Holden obtained his "experience".

Jakerooni · 02-22-09, 06:09

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Originally Posted by David Fermani

I clay with my ring on all the time.

Reading threads doesn't make you a better detailer. Becoming a proficient detailer requires years of hands on experience. Nobody I know of became a pro from reading forums. After learning things here, they still need a certain amount of touch time to perfect. The last thing I'd ever suggest someone wanting to learn how to detail a Lambo would be to read some threads about it. That's obviously where Holden obtained his "experience".

Again Dave is absoultly SPOT on here.

I've been doing this for over 14 years now and I still learn something new every season. I still aspire to "master" a technique. And I didn't learn any of it from reading a forum or watching videos. You don't get in shape by "watching" work out videos LOL

Picus · 02-22-09, 07:18

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Originally Posted by David Fermani

I clay with my ring on all the time.

Reading threads doesn't make you a better detailer. Becoming a proficient detailer requires years of hands on experience. Nobody I know of became a pro from reading forums. After learning things here, they still need a certain amount of touch time to perfect.

I agree. Forums are a great source for information, if you can dissimulate the good from the bad; but nothing can replace hands on experience. I'm sure you've all run into guys who are convinced something they read on the forums is right, when you know it's not.

Someone on Autopia has a quote that says something like "A man with experience is not at the mercy of a man with an opinion". I've always liked that one.

zoomzoom mazda5 · 02-22-09, 07:27

Pure sickening to me..........

zoomzoom mazda5 · 02-22-09, 07:47

Maybe he was thinking with his dipstick............

Puckman · 02-22-09, 07:51

^

OWWW! Why'd you hit me?

MuttGrunt · 02-22-09, 08:39

i'm still in shock at all of this. as pointed out by others - we all have to start somewhere and surely everyone has made mistakes in the past. messing up trim could almost be thought of that.... but what about a sloppy clean-up? how do u BEGIN to justify that? that's not a "different technique" or a "slip of the rotary." i just don't understand. If someone had me work on such a vehicle I can't imagine leaving it with crap all over the place.
i feel so bad for the otherwise beautiful lamborghini

MBZ 500E · 02-22-09, 09:03

I would be a very pissed off owner if I picked up my car and found trim burned away. I definitely wouldn't pay a penny either. Seriously, this happens all to often and it really is frustrating. Rotaries are serious tools which should be handled by professionals who are well aware of the harm which can be done. Doesn't matter what the value of the car is. I've seen glass actually damaged by a rotary which skipped across the surface.

Blows my mind how people can claim to be experts.

When people ask me to detail there car I usually say no, I would charge more than you would want to spend. Good work requires at least 30 - 40 hrs and some disassembly of the car to get it done properly. It also requires that you take hte time to clean between the body lines, cover trim and go very slow. No excuse for the garbage produced by this guy, especially at the prices quoted.

Unbelievable.

biolink · 02-22-09, 09:20

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Originally Posted by MBZ 500E

....Good work requires at least 30 - 40 hrs and some disassembly of the car to get it done properly.....No excuse for the garbage produced by this guy, especially at the prices quoted.

Unbelievable.

Poor Lambo. Came all the way to America only to be abused.

I don't see many talk about disassembly of lights and trim and so on. Maybe this is another thread, but to ya'all take the time to do that when necessary?

(Not a pro. Just watching and admiring the GOOD work. The good ones know who they are.)

MBZ 500E · 02-22-09, 09:55

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Originally Posted by biolink

Poor Lambo. Came all the way to America only to be abused.

I don't see many talk about disassembly of lights and trim and so on. Maybe this is another thread, but to ya'all take the time to do that when necessary?

(Not a pro. Just watching and admiring the GOOD work. The good ones know who they are.)

Disassembly depends on what is being done. For example, concours prep definitely requires removal of some trim/lights etc to clean inside and get access to visible areas which can't be cleaned with Q-Tips etc. But if you're not doing concours work or getting paid for it then at minimum trim should be taped off and avoided by a rotary to avoid damage. This should be common practice IMHO.

Imatk · 02-23-09, 09:14

Yikes!

I see that some of the photos are gone now?

Anyway, I have been detailing for a few years now but I don't do it professionally...
I mostly do my cars and my friend's cars and have found that I too learn something new almost every time I do a different car.

And I agree about the experience comments too. Before I ever picked up a PC I read and read and read and watched videos and videos heh. But the real learning is in the doing.

Same when I moved to a rotary. Much reading and watching of vids, but I've only been using the rotary for about a year now and I still take it very slow and am EXTREMELY careful because I respect the machine and follow the sage advice given here and elsewhere.

Either way I DEFINITELY tape off any trim no matter if the car was a Lambo or a Yugo.

It seems like maybe this guy just got a little ahead of himself and perhaps bit off more than he could chew.

I wouldn't have even attempted to polish that area with a machine. I do all jambs and tight areas like that by hand... so I'm not even sure how he managed to do that.

Anyway, I hope he does pay for that trim and refunds the guy's money.

Ace M3 · 02-23-09, 10:00

I'm still not exactly sure what's going on...can someone just give a summary of what happened? All of the pictures are down.