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06-30-08, 01:35
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Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,441 | Re: Picus & Holden_C04 - Polishing Perfection Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffMe Is it just me or does the front bumper on the black vette look hazy in the last pic of the first post
Nice lookin' vette's there. | There are no pictures of the front bumper of the Black Z06.
Thanks anyway.
EDIT: There's a shot of the corner of the bumper with some stone chip type marring. Is that what you are referring to? If so, it's not going to be removed.
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06-30-08, 01:43
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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 616 | Re: Picus & Holden_C04 - Polishing Perfection I was referring to this picture...
The sun's reflection looks hazy and spread, rather than crisp. | |
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06-30-08, 01:49
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Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,441 | Re: Picus & Holden_C04 - Polishing Perfection It's the angle of the camera. You're looking at the very edge of focus. Expecting it to be perfect is asking a little much.
In any case, the car was mint when delivered. Shots were taken at various times throughout the detail so if it needed to be repolished, it was.
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06-30-08, 01:56
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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 616 | Re: Picus & Holden_C04 - Polishing Perfection Quote:
Originally Posted by Holden_C04 It's the angle of the camera. You're looking at the very edge of focus. Expecting it to be perfect is asking a little much. | Wasn't asking it to be perfect, was just asking if anyone else saw that and thought the same thing. I'm aware of how a camera focuses. Sorry if it seemed like some sort of personal attack on your work. | |
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06-30-08, 02:05
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Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,441 | Re: Picus & Holden_C04 - Polishing Perfection Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffMe Sorry if it seemed like some sort of personal attack on your work. | No worries. 
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06-30-08, 04:06
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Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 3,313 | Re: Picus & Holden_C04 - Polishing Perfection I see it. The front bumper of that car is sandblasted, it's got 161k km and still the original bumper. I think the light just caught the billions of tiny stone chips.
I've actually worked on that car 3 times, got it damned near perfect in November but it was sent out for an engine rebuild (510rwhp) and the body shop buffed it poorly... kind of nice to have the history of a car when working on it.
Here it is in Nov: SimpleViewer
And when I first saw it: GTA In Detail
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06-30-08, 08:16
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Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 1,105 | Re: Picus & Holden_C04 - Polishing Perfection Great work guys. A few questions:
I noticed on one Vette, it was wash with CG CW&G and the other two with ONR. What was it about the one Vette that made you want to use CW&G on it? Extra cleaning power?
Also, Menz IP was used on one Vette and SIP on another. What was the theory in using different polishes?
Similar to above, why was Concorso used on one and Vintage on the other two?
How long does Concorso and Vintage last? If not very long, are these cars you care for with some regularity and can touch up the waxes?
Do you like P21S Paintwork Cleanser better than Swissvax's and Zymol's own paint cleaners? Does P21S work well with pretty much all Carnaubas?
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06-30-08, 08:57
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Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 3,313 | Re: Picus & Holden_C04 - Polishing Perfection Quote:
Originally Posted by bert31 Great work guys. A few questions:
I noticed on one Vette, it was wash with CG CW&G and the other two with ONR. What was it about the one Vette that made you want to use CW&G on it? Extra cleaning power?
Also, Menz IP was used on one Vette and SIP on another. What was the theory in using different polishes?
Similar to above, why was Concorso used on one and Vintage on the other two?
How long does Concorso and Vintage last? If not very long, are these cars you care for with some regularity and can touch up the waxes?
Do you like P21S Paintwork Cleanser better than Swissvax's and Zymol's own paint cleaners? Does P21S work well with pretty much all Carnaubas?
Thanks for all your help. | Good questions, here are the answers.
1) I used Citrus Wash & Gloss because Tyler wasn't there yet, and I tend to wash traditionally in the summer when possible. I like getting wet!  None of them were particularly dirty.
2) SIP and the first vette (the black one) don't get along well. You may have already read about "sticky" paint, or paint that seems to pull your rotary when you use SIP (and to a lesser extend 106ff/8rd) on them. I knew this about the black vette but forgot, tried SIP on one panel and remembered; then switched to IP.
3) Tyler hadn't used Concorso and as we got conversing I said "well let's use it on this car then", so we did. That simple!
4) Neither lasts as long as a sealant, I've seen up to 3 months with Vintage on garaged cars, similar with Concorso. The Stingray is a garage queen, the other two are driven but not a lot anymore. I'll probably see at least two of them again this summer. At least two of the owners like to wax their own cars too, and I think the third may join them.
5) Yes and yes. Easier to use, similar effect, cheaper. I've been using P21S GEPC for a long time and prefer it to most of the other prewaxes I've used. Cleaner Fluid is ok, Blackfires new one is ok, HD cleanse is blah...imo of course. 
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06-30-08, 09:20
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Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 25,603 | Re: Picus & Holden_C04 - Polishing Perfection Nice job on all three, really love the blue Stingray.  | |
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07-01-08, 07:16
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Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 1,005 | Re: Picus & Holden_C04 - Polishing Perfection Question for you, Picus. How exactly are you using the GEPC? I have a bottle that I have yet to use, and I'm a little unsure of the application process. Are you simply working with a white or black/grey pad? Please advise. Thanks in advance. Quote:
Originally Posted by Picus Good questions, here are the answers.
5) Y es and yes. Easier to use, similar effect, cheaper. I've been using P21S GEPC for a long time and prefer it to most of the other prewaxes I've used. Cleaner Fluid is ok, Blackfires new one is ok, HD cleanse is blah...imo of course.  |
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07-01-08, 09:14
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Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 2,874 | Re: Picus & Holden_C04 - Polishing Perfection  Fantastic work as always, gents!
Hulk, I apply GEPC with a red pad on a PC at speed five. Work it until it's just about dry, then remove the residue with an MF.
Picus was the one that turned me on (*that* didn't sound right...) to GEPC. It really is good stuff. | |
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07-01-08, 10:13
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Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 1,105 | Re: Picus & Holden_C04 - Polishing Perfection Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperBee364  Fantastic work as always, gents!
Hulk, I apply GEPC with a red pad on a PC at speed five. Work it until it's just about dry, then remove the residue with an MF.
Picus was the one that turned me on (*that* didn't sound right...) to GEPC. It really is good stuff. | What does the GE stand for in GEPC? | |
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