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Old 01-23-08, 11:54   #1 (permalink)
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Rickrack & Rydawg to the rescue!! (Land Rover LR-3)

Ryan and I have been talking about getting together to do a detail for a while now and finally found the time this past weekend. One of my very good customers owns this Land Rover LR-3. He lives in MA and drives to NH every day for work, so it gets pretty covered in sand and salt from the wonderful roads here in New England. My client did not want a full paint correction. He just wanted it cleaned up and sealed to get him through the winter. The owner is usually very meticulous with his vehicles, but it was significantly worse this time around than it has ever been in the past.


This is the first detail that Ryan and I have ever done together, so we decided to go a little above and beyond the expectations of the owner and had some fun buffing. Ryan brought his Metabo with him, which I have never had the chance to use, so I was able to try it out along with some different pads and products he had brought with him.


When my client dropped the vehicle off, I could not believe the amount of sand and salt that was all over it. I decided to wash it before Ryan arrived so we could get started with all the buffing as soon as he got there. I spent over two hours washing the exterior, rinsing out sand from all of the nooks & crannies, and cleaning the wheels & tires. I was able to get all of the wet work done by the time Ryan arrived. I attempted to take some before pictures, but my camera battery decided to die and was not able to take any.


Here are a few pictures after I had washed it:





















 
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As you can see, the paint had its share of swirls, scratches and blemishes from his wife visiting the automated car wash frequently.

Some of the scratches were pretty deep and would have required wetsanding to completely remove them, so Ryan and I decided to do the best we could with just compounding. We removed a great deal of defects, but there were a few RIDS that remained. The owner said it was a lease and it was going to get turned in this May, so we didn’t go to extreme measures wetsanding.

Ryan got right to work claying the heavily contaminated exterior while I started on the extremely dirty interior. After the interior was detailed and the paint was clayed, we broke out the Makita and the Metabo. We got right to work and were not able to take any before pictures under the halogens.

We decided to try SIP on an orange pad, but it was dusting badly and really marring the paint. We then decided to give Presta UCC a try to see if we had any better luck, but this gave us a little trouble as well. The Presta seemed to work better than the SIP, but was acting really weird and had quite a bit of dusting. We broke out the 3M Extra Cut which worked out the best of all three, so we stuck with it for the first stage.

After working on a few panels with the Extra Cut, Ryan and I both experienced that there was something funky with the paint which was causing the panels to out-gas after polishing as well as extreme dusting. We would buff one panel, inspect it under the halogens and then see the panel all of a sudden get really cloudy and haze up. We both believe that the cause of this is from too many visits to the automated car wash by the owner. More than likely, the car wash uses some sort of silicone product which was causing us to have problems. We wiped down the exterior with straight alcohol to attempt to remove whatever was causing these problems.

Here is a pic of the out-gassing after just one pass with Extra Cut:



After the compounding was completed, we buffed the complete exterior with 106ff which really brought the paint back, but still left a considerable amount of hazing. We experienced the same out-gassing after using the 106ff as well.

This is what it looked like after the 106ff: You can see the fogginess and haze left behind.






Here is a pic of me using the metabo:



Since the 106ff didn’t give us the results we were striving for, we decided to use Ultrafina for the final polishing step which brought the paint to a whole new level. It removed all of the hazing we were experiencing and Ryan and I were shaking our heads as we were buffing saying “ this stuff is amazing!”. It finished off with a high gloss, swirl-free finish. This was only my second time using Ultrafina, and I must say that it is an absolute must-have product!

Ryan polishing with Ultrafina:



Here’s a few pics after polishing with Ultrafina. (Don’t mind the dust and slight smudging)



 
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As you can see, the UF really made a huge difference in extreme gloss and clarity!



The total process :

Wash, clean wheels and tires, thoroughly rinse every crack & crevice to remove all sand and salt

Wiped lower areas with a solvent to remove all grease and tar

Clayed with Clay Magic bar using ONR mixture as a lube

Z6 wipedown

Compounded complete exterior with 3M Extra Cut using an orange foam pad

Alcohol wipedown

Polished complete exterior with 106ff using a foam polishing pad

Polished complete exterior with Ultrafina using blue foam finishing pads (UF blue & LC blue)

IPA wipedown, followed by Z6

Zaino AIO by hand

Z8 wipedown

Z6 on the exterior plastic

Super Blue dressing on the tires and wheel wells

Zaino Clear-Seal on exterior glass and wheels

Complete interior detail

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I have a few interior before and after pictures that I will post up later.
 
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Re: Rickrack & Rydawg to the rescue!! (Land Rover LR-3)

Great write up, good visuals, very informative......

Have you experienced out-gassing issues in the summer time......?

I'm curious if the winter temps had any additional role in the cloudyness......
 
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Great write up, good visuals, very informative......

Have you experienced out-gassing issues in the summer time......?

I'm curious if the winter temps had any additional role in the cloudyness......
Dave, we were working in my completely dry heated garage. Absolute perfect conditions.
I detail cars all the time in the winter out of my garage and have never had a problem. Ryan and I have both been detailing cars for 15 years each, so we are pretty sure that there was some sort of silicone product which was causing this. I have only seen this a few times before.


Did you ever end up picking up some Ultrafina?

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Dave, we were working in my completely dry heated garage. Absolute perfect conditions.
I detail cars all the time in the winter out of my garage and have never had a problem. Ryan and I have both been detailing cars for 15 years each, so we are pretty sure that there was some sort of silicone product which was causing this. I have only seen this a few time before.


Did you ever end up picking up some Ultrafina?
Thanks for the explanation......

I ended up ordering 32oz of PO85RD from AG. After seeing your results here, I may have another purchase coming in the near future....
 
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awesome job guys!


favorite truck the interior is PLUSH

where can i get ultrafina??
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Dave1- It's definitely a great product to have. You will love it!

DieselMDX- Thanks!

Where in MA are you? We should all get together some day this spring and work on a few details.

I bought mine at the Sherwin Williams auto body supply store in Medford. If you call any body shop supply store and give them the product number, they will be able to get it from their distributor within a day or two.

I highly recommend the blue Ultrafina pad as well. Works great.
 
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Dave1- It's definitely a great product to have. You will love it!

DieselMDX- Thanks!

Where in MA are you? We should all get together some day this spring and work on a few details.

I bought mine at the Sherwin Williams auto body supply store in Medford. If you call any body shop supply store and give them the product number, they will be able to get it from their distributor within a day or two.

I highly recommend the blue Ultrafina pad as well. Works great.

I am in New Bedford I deff would be interested in a detailing meet I have already talked to attcidog and he is interested also.

I will call some area stores.

Thanx!
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Sounds like a plan!

We'll have to meet up as soon as the weather gets better.
 
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