Great news for detailers from optimum - Page 2

JoshVette · 06-04-09, 03:22

I read that release thread and to be quite honest, pics just don't mean much to me when someone is really trying to promote a product.... (no offense)

I only ask these questions cause I'm interested in the product.

I would hate to invest the money and then test it by my own standards and only see 4-6 months protection after seeing the 1-2+ years claims that are being made.

I've tried out other products that were all hyped up just to be let down in the end by the claims not being supported by my own findings, so I'm going to ask tough questions if I can and challenge the findings the best I know how.

There's so many factors and variables over 2-3 years that I find it very hard to believe something will last that long without wearing down significantly. I've seen clear coats not last that long on some vehicles.....

....over the years we've all learned to understand when something sounds too good to be true it usually is....

Hope you don't mind the questioning.
Josh

reparebrise · 06-05-09, 07:29

Josh

Questions are always good things, and a successful business person must ask questions about everything, and keep questioning and pushing to stay ahead of the competition. There is a cost to all advancement, and in my case testing is a very big cost, but also gets me great gains, and the cost to test the product is minimal, you just need to buy some and apply. Very true that pictures do not tell the whole story, it has to be seen to be believed, also the customers reactions need to be experienced, even on a showroom new car the change is perceptible.

I do not sell the Opti-Coat, nor promote it, it's just that in my testing I have discovered this to be unlike any other product I have ever used, and is well worth talking about(look at the vast multitude of ONR threads, in time this should be as loved if not more.

For durability it is not affected by chemicals such as alcohol or prep sol, not to mention soaps. We have a customers truck coated with the product, and now over 100 thousand miles, and the coating is still going strong, resisting such things as bird bombs and a front full of insects(there is minimal etching, but much less than a non treated surface).

For standards my testing involves beading, resistance to particle adhesion(it does not get as loaded as non treated surfaces, almost feeling like it has been clayed , while next to it it feels like sandpaper), gloss and film thickness. Upon installation we get 2-4 microns of film build, and the exact spot is measured on a regular basis, so far no reduction in thickness. For gloss it has retained it's gloss (not a subjective reading but with a gloss scale) and the adjacent panel has faded (Imron paint, not base clear), showing to me that it provides good UV protection as well.

JoshVette · 06-05-09, 09:05

Thanks for the info and not getting offended. I like to ask tons of questions with these kinds of things.

Josh

reparebrise · 06-05-09, 09:31

Josh

I hope you give it a try,seeing that you do a lot of vettes, the polished wheels are simply amazing with this stuff.

bufferbarry · 06-05-09, 03:12

products sounds nice, my ? is there claiming 2-3 years protection has this been tested and document for that long?

JoshVette · 06-07-09, 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by reparebrise

Josh

I hope you give it a try,seeing that you do a lot of vettes, the polished wheels are simply amazing with this stuff.

I would like to try it out, but I never test or use anything on my clients cars before I've used it on my own personal cars.

If I can get even 12 months out of it and it was easy to apply/remove then I'd probably toss my other stuff and switch over.

If it does get that 12+ months protection but is very difficult to use then I'd probably limit it to my full correction jobs only.

Sorry just thinking out loud.

Are you guys doing any samples or such? I could probably get some from Scottwax if he has any? Just let me know. PM me if need be.

Josh

Superior Fine · 06-09-09, 08:19

I had applied some to the hood of my Toyota and I did a Z06 vette today. I can't say anything about durability but it is super slick and velvety soft feeling.Very very nice shine as well.

Flashtime · 07-29-09, 04:50

Bump. Anymore news??

Got More Wax · 08-04-09, 11:16

End of the day, contaminants will still bond to the surface this product is applied. And, why would I want to have a client back off and have me service their car only once evey few yeas. Long-lasting claims have been made over and again. I really doubt this will be any different!!

Andy

MorBid · 08-04-09, 08:42

I'm willing to give Dave the benefit of the doubt. I've spoken with him on the phone a few times and he really knows his stuff.

I do autobody work and painting however, and am leary of coating any panel with some type of paint protection which cannot be removed using the normal and approved methods.

Hopefully once the product come to the market they will have on the container the means of taking it off the paint.

reparebrise · 08-05-09, 06:57

It is easy to remove, it needs abrasion, solvents do not touch it once cured, but a good heavy compound or 2000 grit sandpaper, and it's gone.

David Fermani · 08-05-09, 07:31

Will it bond over wax?