(Diminishing) shine of UPGP? - Page 3

WilliamHBonney · 09-06-07, 10:01

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Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

I'd probably go with a traditional wash to remove the residue. That way there is no "interference" with the product testing caused by using the QD which *is* PC'd and will boost the product.

I did wash the car with Megs NXT soap before I applied the ZCS and it still didnt have that right look or feel to it after the wash. You guys got me thinking now that I got a bad bottle. How could I really tell?

chml17l · 09-06-07, 10:09

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Originally Posted by ZoranC

So I see consistent reports of no issues with WHB reporting different experience. Any wild guesses by anyone what could be contributing to differing experience?

It could be due to differences in surface prep and the fact that not all paint/clearcoats are exactly the same. This board gets into discussions all the time whenever someone's durability claims don't match others and I really don't think this is any different. There are a lot of variables out there (wash shampoo, tunnel washes, qds, etc.) and everyone experiences different environmental factors depending on where they live, too.

wannafbody · 09-06-07, 04:17

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Originally Posted by WilliamHBonney

I did wash the car with Megs NXT soap before I applied the ZCS and it still didnt have that right look or feel to it after the wash. You guys got me thinking now that I got a bad bottle. How could I really tell?

I really doubt the you got a bad bottle. Does the product look like it seperated, is it clumpy or milky looking?

WilliamHBonney · 09-06-07, 05:11

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Originally Posted by wannafbody

I really doubt the you got a bad bottle. Does the product look like it seperated, is it clumpy or milky looking?

No it does not. I did find it interesting though because I poured some in a clear bottle and its actually not clear. That surprised me. I guess I just have a different experience.

RCBuddha · 09-06-07, 06:19

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Originally Posted by chml17l

It could be due to differences in surface prep and the fact that not all paint/clearcoats are exactly the same. This board gets into discussions all the time whenever someone's durability claims don't match others and I really don't think this is any different. There are a lot of variables out there (wash shampoo, tunnel washes, qds, etc.) and everyone experiences different environmental factors depending on where they live, too.

I could not agree more...

wannafbody · 09-06-07, 06:42

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Originally Posted by WilliamHBonney

No it does not. I did find it interesting though because I poured some in a clear bottle and its actually not clear. That surprised me. I guess I just have a different experience.

That is surprising. I was under the impression that Ultima was a clear polymer. I know my CS is clear. If it's not clear in the bottle and it isn't wiped off I would assume it isn't clear once it dries on the paint.

ZoranC · 09-06-07, 06:50

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Originally Posted by wannafbody

That is surprising. I was under the impression that Ultima was a clear polymer. I know my CS is clear. If it's not clear in the bottle and it isn't wiped off I would assume it isn't clear once it dries on the paint.

I did bot bother to closely inspect whether liquid in my UPPP bottle is completely clear (color and material of bottle hide it) but liquid in all of Ultima Spray bottles I received is whitish.

WilliamHBonney · 09-06-07, 07:10

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Originally Posted by wannafbody

That is surprising. I was under the impression that Ultima was a clear polymer. I know my CS is clear. If it's not clear in the bottle and it isn't wiped off I would assume it isn't clear once it dries on the paint.

Pour a little out into a clear container, its not clear. I know ZCS and OS are clear. I dont know how a non clear product would impact the results once it dries.

Alfisti · 09-10-07, 07:37

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Originally Posted by wannafbody

That is surprising. I was under the impression that Ultima was a clear polymer. I know my CS is clear. If it's not clear in the bottle and it isn't wiped off I would assume it isn't clear once it dries on the paint.

Perfectly clear glass has a colour...clear-coat has a colour...I would hardly be concerned if a microscopic layer of sealant isn't perfectly clear in a bottle. At microscopic level, its totally transparent with no colour. The whole thing is irrelevent as to the result.

Scottwax · 09-10-07, 08:03

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

Perfectly clear glass has a colour...clear-coat has a colour...I would hardly be concerned if a microscopic layer of sealant isn't perfectly clear in a bottle. At microscopic level, its totally transparent with no colour. The whole thing is irrelevent as to the result.

Agreed. Meguiars #16 is blue and it certainly doesn't turn the paint blue when you apply it.

Side by side, cured OS and UPGP looked identical to each other on silver paint. OS looks clear to me, UPGP isn't, so pretty obvious that whether or not UPGP is clear in the bottle, it doesn't affect how it looks on the paint.

wannafbody · 09-10-07, 08:07

16 gets buffed off- big difference

Alfisti · 09-10-07, 08:15

#16 gets buffed off because it leaves heaps of residue. UPGP's solvents evaporate to deposit the same amount of product as buffed off #16...maybe even less as it's not a wax. Same diff.