How is this hi tech body sponge different than the Ultima Elastrofoam? - Page 2

ZoranC · 08-19-07, 11:47

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Originally Posted by cdodkin

We did a black car at the original Ultima launch - no marring that I could see.

Marred both of my black cars. However, I am far from experienced expert detailer to trust my experience with it as golden word, so I will point to ones that are and that reported marring, like SpoiledMan. However, they (he at least) seem to accept marring as a trade off for speed it is elimating contamination with when car will need paint correction anyway.

SpoiledMan · 08-20-07, 12:28

Yep, it will mar depending on the lube used and the paint used on with said lube. I get marring using ONR diluted and get pretty much none using DG wash solution. At any rate, you're missing out if you haven't used one of these on a car that's in serious need of claying. This stuff cleans NOW.

SpoiledMan · 08-20-07, 12:57

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Originally Posted by ZoranC

You quoted me before I had a chance to correct myself. I based my first post on memory that Ultima's price was $28 when I was buying it (yeah, I am a sucker that purchased it) and on price foam is (so I am told) in paint shop stores, which is $10 (OK, $9.99). Hence my post that difference is $18 and (that you don't get) bottle of lubricant. Then I double-checked prices and Ultima is actually $38 so I re-edited my post to say that difference is $28 and bottle of lubricant.

P.S. It is nice lubricant. I don't feel it is $28 nice though.

Where can these be had for $10?????

ZoranC · 08-20-07, 03:03

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Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

Where can these be had for $10?????

I found info on one of other forums, MO if I remember correctly. I can't find it right now. I think I saved link somewhere. Remind me to look for it.

ZoranC · 08-20-07, 03:10

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Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

Yep, it will mar depending on the lube used and the paint used on with said lube. I get marring using ONR diluted and get pretty much none using DG wash solution.

It marred hood on my black Supra even with generous amount of lubricant provided with it. On the other hand, to be fair, that hood gets swirls just because it didn't like how you looked at it. Not as bad as that BMW though.

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Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

At any rate, you're missing out if you haven't used one of these on a car that's in serious need of claying. This stuff cleans NOW.

In the case somebody was not paying attention, pay attention to what SpoiledMan said here, that stuff cleans it like right NOW. Like right right now. Like pronto. Like prontissimo. I can atest to that. Paint that pulls back on your finger tips as if it has super glue on it gets real smooth real fast.

BlackElantraGT · 08-20-07, 03:44

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Originally Posted by ZoranC

I found info on one of other forums, MO if I remember correctly. I can't find it right now. I think I saved link somewhere. Remind me to look for it.

It was Joe aka SuperShine who made a comment about overpaying for it, but I don't think he ever revealed his source. I didn't follow that thread, as I don't care for MO very much.

I would still like to know where these can be had for $10.

ZoranC · 08-20-07, 03:54

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Originally Posted by BlackElantraGT

It was Joe aka SuperShine who made a comment about overpaying for it, but I don't think he ever revealed his source. I didn't follow that thread, as I don't care for MO very much.

I would still like to know where these can be had for $10.

Yes, that is the thread, but I did get PM with pointer to source (not from Joe, from somebody else). I couldn't find that PM right now, I might have saved it or saved link from it, that's what I need to find. In the meantime people were saying regular body shop stores.

zingyginger · 08-20-07, 07:18

I spot clay (but don't polish) with every wash so I'm looking at this and the DF Peerless sponge as a viable alternative (not have to worry about clay being dropped, more use, etc). This is the only thread I could find that reviewed the DF Peerless sponge:
http://autopia.org/forum/detailing-p...ss-sponge.html

However, the elastrofoam seems to be equivalent to a moderately abrasive clay from what's said so far. Just to confirm: Is it possible to use it with little or no pressure to make it the equivalent of a mild clay? In the instances of marring, it was used on an already washed/cleaned car, right? If so, can rinsing or spraying with the special lube with each pass eliminate the marring, that is, is the marring from trapped particles or from the rubber itself?

ZoranC · 08-20-07, 12:37

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Originally Posted by zingyginger

However, the elastrofoam seems to be equivalent to a moderately abrasive clay from what's said so far. Just to confirm: Is it possible to use it with little or no pressure to make it the equivalent of a mild clay? In the instances of marring, it was used on an already washed/cleaned car, right? If so, can rinsing or spraying with the special lube with each pass eliminate the marring, that is, is the marring from trapped particles or from the rubber itself?

It marred my black Poopra's hood on the very first pass (so no prior contamination of pad was there that needed to be rinsed away) with very little, if not next to none at all, pressure. Pad and hood were thorougly soaked in lubricant. Yes, car was washed real well prior to that (and it better should have been or otherwise I would be deserving whatever marring I got plus being slapped upside down the street and being called Shirley).