Can you apply Ultima Paint Guard Plus over a wax?

MDRX8 · 07-30-07, 12:01

I just have applied the coats of Zymol Vintage on my car. Can I top it with Ultima Paint Guard Plus ? Thanks

MDRX8 · 07-30-07, 12:03

Sorry THREE coats

CharmTDI · 07-30-07, 12:07

and on this same discussion why not layer it on top of a coat of Klasse Sealant/Glaze?
I was really sold on the protective properties of Acrylics.

MDRX8 · 07-30-07, 12:42

I am after good looks, deep and wet as a nuba can give.

DavidB · 07-30-07, 12:55

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Originally Posted by MDRX8

I just have applied the coats of Zymol Vintage on my car. Can I top it with Ultima Paint Guard Plus ? Thanks

Mike,

It will remove most waxes.

I think you will find that it creates a dark, deep, wet-look shine.

db

CharmTDI · 07-30-07, 01:09

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Originally Posted by DavidB

Mike,

It will remove most waxes.

I think you will find that it creates a dark, deep, wet-look shine.

db

So you are saying that Paing Guard Plus sealant will remove waxes?
Is it just Carnuba or polymer/acrylic too?

DavidB · 07-30-07, 01:18

It's going to remove anything that does not create a hard, cured polymer film. It won't remove Zaino or Duragloss. Not sure about others.

MDRX8 · 07-30-07, 01:51

David Check Your PM's I sent one need reply ASAP

Low Tech · 08-19-07, 09:21

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Originally Posted by DavidB

Mike,

It (UPGP) will remove most waxes.

I think you will find that it creates a dark, deep, wet-look shine.

db

Hi, David - I read your reply with interest, but I'm confused From your web site:

Can Ultima Paint Guard Plus be applied over another manufacturer's wax product?
You bet! Although we recommend first using Ultima Paint Prep Plus, many people have used Ultima Paint Guard Plus over other (fully cured) wax products with very good results. In all cases, Ultima Paint Guard Plus will increase gloss and durability.
Ultima Paint Guard Plus

I've already ordered UPGP, but don't know whether I need to start over to use it, or just add it on top of P21S or Souveran??? Thanks!

derekbmw · 08-19-07, 10:17

David,
"It's going to remove anything that does not create a hard, cured polymer film."
Does this generally apply for all WOWA products? Could you tell me why? Just curious...

TortoiseAWD · 08-20-07, 09:39

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Originally Posted by CharmTDI

and on this same discussion why not layer it on top of a coat of Klasse Sealant/Glaze?
I was really sold on the protective properties of Acrylics.

I've been doing this with my car, and so far, it seems to work fine. I got my Ultima about a week and a half ago, and wanted to give it a try, but knew I wasn't going to have time to do a full prep job. DB had mentioned it should work over anything that truly cures (Klasse, Werkstatt, DG, Zaino, etc.), so I just washed and applied it right over the Werkstatt already on my car.

Three applications later, my silver WRX has never looked so wet (always tough to achieve with silver). I washed again this weekend . . . beading and slickness are awesome.

In my short experience, I'd say there shouldn't be any problem layering UPGP over acrylics.

Tort

DavidB · 08-20-07, 12:53

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Originally Posted by derekbmw

David,
"It's going to remove anything that does not create a hard, cured polymer film."
Does this generally apply for all WOWA products? Could you tell me why? Just curious...

Anything that would be removed by a light solvent (99% of the waxes out there) will be removed with a single application of PGP.

While I have not experienced a case of streaking for applying PGP over another product, best practice dictates that paint should be properly cleaned and polished before initial application.