Polycharger H2O vs CH2 longevity?

crew219 · 06-23-07, 08:43

From what I gather from reading multiple threads, CH2 has a shorter shelf life than H2O. Also, H2O, when mixed with a spray or an acrylic sealant such as JW and Klasse, doesn't affect the product's shelf life.

Is this correct?

Wondering because I'm considering Polycharging my JW Prime, Acrylic Jett, Acrylic Jett Trigger and Acrylic glos, and wouldn't want to decrease the shelf life of those products.

Thanks!

Dave

PTRon · 06-23-07, 04:24

CH2 should only be mixes with enough of the product that you're going to use right now. There is no shelf life to CH2 mixed products (according to polycharger website).

DavidB · 06-23-07, 05:58

There is no shelf life of H20 mixed products. There is a 48 - 72 hour shelf life for most products mixed with CH2. A couple products that I have noted that do not have a shelf life when CH2 is added are Duragloss and Zaino.

usdm · 06-23-07, 06:20

I'm confused. When you all say there is no shelf life, do you mean it has to be used immediately, or that the polycharged product wil last as long as the wax/ sealant it is added to?

crew219 · 06-23-07, 07:16

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Originally Posted by DavidB

There is no shelf life of H20 mixed products. There is a 48 - 72 hour shelf life for most products mixed with CH2. A couple products that I have noted that do not have a shelf life when CH2 is added are Duragloss and Zaino.

Awesome, thanks David! I read your early review last november of KAIO and JW Prime and that convinced me that I should augment my werkstatt line with Polycharger.

Dave

DavidB · 06-23-07, 10:08

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Originally Posted by usdm

I'm confused. When you all say there is no shelf life, do you mean it has to be used immediately, or that the polycharged product wil last as long as the wax/ sealant it is added to?

It will cause the wax/sealant to harden in the bottle. That is the purpose of the product... to boost the protective polymers to their limit.

db

usdm · 06-24-07, 11:05

Thanks for the reply.

s98d7fs · 06-25-07, 03:34

David,

I've got (what's left of) a jar of S100 that I polycharged about 4 months ago. The mixture is actually more melty than just S100 alone, and has remained that way since the day I added Polycharger.

I've also polycharged detail sprays (Acrylic Spritz and Glanz, as well as Poorboy's QW+), and it hasn't seemed to shorten their lifespan of usefulness.

It would seem to me that when mixed with S100 or the detail sprays I've mentioned, the longevity of the product isn't noticibly affected. This may or may not be the norm, as I haven't performed as extensive of tests as you.

DavidB · 06-26-07, 09:12

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Originally Posted by s98d7fs

David,
I've got (what's left of) a jar of S100 that I polycharged about 4 months ago. The mixture is actually more melty than just S100 alone, and has remained that way since the day I added Polycharger.

In order to make a proper paste wax with Polycharger you have to add more Carnauba wax to stiffen it up.

I keep my Polycharger boosted jar of P21S in the fridge to make it stiff.

db

jermar · 08-07-07, 02:53

David: Do you Polycharge P21 with CH2, or H2O? I thought CH2 mix must be used at once.

DavidB · 08-07-07, 09:14

After using the Polycharged wax a few times, I don't recommend doing it. There are so many better combinations. IMHO, it is much better to PC a liquid wax than the paste.

Save the P21S for a topper.

phamkl · 08-07-07, 11:44

P21S in particular or pastes in general? My limited testing thus far with 476S made it slicker than without. I'm not going to be able to test durability since the car it went on, left me. I did apply it to my personal car... about three weeks before I stripped it all down to start the whole process over again. No differences in looks though. No pics either.