RE: Ultima Paint guard wash

[mongo]

David I have a question about the Ultima car wash most car washes have a health rating of 1 a few concentrated ones are 2. Some others like Meguiars high tech wash have a health rating of 0.

What about the Ultima wash I read where you said it has no conditioners or phospates I assume it has a polymer in it.

thanx mongo

[DavidB]

Mongo,

Talk to me more about "health rating". I'm not familiar with it... do you have a source of info?

The Ultima Wash Paint Guard Wash is near neutral pH. It does not contain detergents or phosphates, and is only slightly alkaline (as it needs to be to have any cleaning ability at all). By itself, it won't clean much. It's real job is lubrication for mechanical agitation. Make sense. As such, it does its job by producing mounds and mounds of suds that just keep on sudsing. The secret to this is, well, a secret.

We looked at dozens of car washes, both boutique and retail, to see what characteristics are the very best. We determined that all of the products that have good initial suding capability are simply too strong (detergents). Those with poor suds have too much conditioner or they are simply a bad soap all together. Our goal was a "pure soap" without a detergent action that offers superior lubrication and suds that won't die when introduced to common automotive dirt (e.g., brake dust!).

I think most people will agree when they try it that it offers a very pleasant experience. Fragrance (Dial soap), thick suds that last, and gentle cleaning are all part of the experience.

[mongo]

OK maybe I was not specific enough which was my fault.

On Meguiars products you look up there MDS on there website Meguiars Hi tech wash has a health rating of zero while like # 62 wash and most of the others have a rating of one. I really like Hi-tech wash

Also all of Finish Kare washes have a rating of one.

Thanx for the reply mongo

[a.k.a. Patrick]

Fragrance (Dial soap), thick suds that last,

Nothing subliminal there, jut a coincidence. Leave it to David to remind you about washing your car while taking a shower! LMAO!

[DavidB]

Okay, I finally got myself educated. I'm not the chemist, so I'm pretty dumb about these things. Here's the scoop:

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HMIS®, the Hazardous Materials Identification System, is a registered mark of the National Paint and Coatings Association (NPCA) but is used by all manufacturers to comply with the requirements of OSHA's Hazard Communication Standard. HMIS® uses colored bars, numbers and symbols to convey the severity of hazards of chemicals. Only numbers are used in this database to convey the severity of the hazards of chemical ingredients of each brand when used in the workplace. These ratings were determined for each brand by its manufacturer and documented in the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) published by the manufacturer.

"Health" denotes the health hazard. The health rating is based on the toxicity of chemicals contained in a specific brand and its ability to cause skin and eye irritation.?
"Fire" denotes the fire hazard, and ratings are assigned based on the flashpoint and boiling point of the materials contained in a specific brand.

"Reactivity" denotes the reactivity hazard from exposure to materials contained in the indicated brand. Reactivity ratings are based on the material's potential to release violent energy under conditions of fire, water contact, high temperature or pressure, or proximity to activating substances.

The level of severity for acute exposures is as follows:

0 = Minimal

1 = Slight

2 = Moderate

3 = Serious

4 = Severe

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I believe we are a zero, but I will get back to you with actual information.

[mongo]

David thanx for getting the info back to me

There is a good chance I will be using Polycharger or Ultima.

Just in time for vacation too

mongo

[Ben Kenobi]

Thank you for posting that David. I was wondering what the scale was too. I have used #62 a couple of times recently and found it ok. I was wearing gloves though. Argh, I do want to try your Ultima Paint Guard Wash... I have too many soaps now as it is!

[mongo]

I would like to ask if the wash has any of these ingredients in it :

Coconut Diethanolamide
Cocamido Propyl Betaine


thanx much mongo