Polycharged Z5 Pro

torch02 · 10-22-06, 07:41

I sealed half of my mustang with Polycharged Z5 Pro and the other half with zfx'd Z5 Pro. I used 1 dose of polycharger to 1 ounce of Z5.

Process
Wash with ONR, Clay, polish with Z-PC, Z6 wipedown.

zfx'd Z5 applied with mf applicator to passenger side, waited 30 min. then buffed off. Repeated 3 times with Z6 inbetween coats. Each coat was done right after the Z6 wipe down.

Polycharged Z5 applied with mf applicator to drivers side, waited 30 min. the buffed off. Reapeated 3 times with Z6 inbetween coats. 2 hours allowed inbetween each coat.

Observations
The first coat of PC Z5 was harded to apply in thin coats than the zfx'd Z5, I sprayed the applicator with Z6 and it helped. The second and third coat both went on easier, even easier than zfx'd Z5. Both zfx'd and PC Z5 were easy to buff off, and neither stained the trim. The PC Z5 is noticibly slicker than the zfx'd Z5, I'm am anxious to see the difference once it is allowed to fully cure.

This is the best pic I could get today, its been raining and cloudy all day.

Here is the PC Z5 next to the zfx'd Z5. The PC Z5 was slightly thicker and had more of a creamy texture.

wannafbody · 10-22-06, 09:58

this should be an interesting test. Please update as to beading charactaristics, dirt repellancyand slickness and please don't use Z6 or Z8. If possible allow the test to go as long as possible-preferrable 6 plus months or until one side fails. If your feeling brave do some dawn washing. Were you able to tell any visual differences between the 2 sides? Did you notice any issues with streaking? Did you notice any difference in drying or cure time?

sspeer · 10-23-06, 07:31

So far I'm seeing some similarities with my M21 test. The extra slickness and a thicker product that was a little strange to apply.

I can see how the thickening property can be welcome with watery sealants like KSG

DETAILKING · 10-23-06, 10:41

Anxious to see durability comparisons....make sure you don't use any spray detailers after your car washes to keep a fair test.

blkZ28Conv · 10-23-06, 11:19

Did you note any visual changes? Darkening? Depth? Wetness? Verses the Z5PRO/ZFX side.
Was the PolyChargerS surface free of any oily residual?

TIA

torch02 · 10-23-06, 01:20

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Originally Posted by wannafbody

this should be an interesting test. Please update as to beading charactaristics, dirt repellancyand slickness and please don't use Z6 or Z8. If possible allow the test to go as long as possible-preferrable 6 plus months or until one side fails. If your feeling brave do some dawn washing. Were you able to tell any visual differences between the 2 sides? Did you notice any issues with streaking? Did you notice any difference in drying or cure time?

I plan to wash with ONR, I may try a Polycharged Z6 or Z8 on some test panels to compare the differences, but not on the whole car. I intend for the testing to go on untill spring, or untill one side fails. Didn't really notice any visual differences between either side, and there were no issues with streaking when removing. Drying time was the same for both, but i let the PC Z5 cure longer between coats because of DavidB's experiance using PC Zaino.

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Originally Posted by sspeer

So far I'm seeing some similarities with my M21 test. The extra slickness and a thicker product that was a little strange to apply.

That's exactly what I was thinking when reading your post.

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Originally Posted by DETAILKING

make sure you don't use any spray detailers after your car washes to keep a fair test.

If I have to use a QD for any reason, bugs, bird bombs, I will be using ONR QD. I don't think the ONR QD will have any effect on the durability of either side.

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Originally Posted by blkZ28Conv

Did you note any visual changes? Darkening? Depth? Wetness? Verses the Z5PRO/ZFX side.
Was the PolyChargerS surface free of any oily residual?

TIA

Didn't notice any changes in darkness, depth, or wetness. Hope to be able to better compare each side once we get some sunlight over here. There was no oily residual on the Polycharged side.

This morning the Polycharged side felt even slicker than when the last coat was removed last night. It is defenatly the slickest wax/sealent I have used. There should be rain and maybe some snow this week, I'll get some pictures of the beeding on each side. I got some pictures after getting home from work, these were taken after a light sprinkle of rain at work. What little rain that was on the car flew off on the freeway just as well for both sides.
ZFX'D side

Polycharged side

hood

wannafbody · 10-23-06, 04:34

Sorry but ONR will not be an effective wash to use if you plan on fairly monitoring durability as it leaves polymers on the surface. With 3 coats of Zaino the finish will likely last a year or more. I'd suggest a good traditional carwash without polymer additives or use a coin op wash as they tend to use stronger soaps.

SpoiledMan · 10-23-06, 05:15

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Originally Posted by wannafbody

Sorry but ONR will not be an effective wash to use if you plan on fairly monitoring durability as it leaves polymers on the surface. With 3 coats of Zaino the finish will likely last a year or more. I'd suggest a good traditional carwash without polymer additives or use a coin op wash as they tend to use stronger soaps.

I don't think we *know* that the polymers in ONR even "bond" to Zaino. We also have the unknown of how long the boosted Z will actually last. That said, in my experience, you can tell when the protection on the surface is dead even when using ONR/QEW.

torch02 · 10-23-06, 06:52

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Originally Posted by wannafbody

I'd suggest a good traditional carwash without polymer additives or use a coin op wash as they tend to use stronger soaps.

If the weather warms up I'll try with another carwash and foam gun using a strong mixture. I also intend to use touchless carwashes, especially with winter coming. I fully intend to try to break the protection of both sealents.

DavidB · 10-23-06, 07:23

Sharp looking paint!

I'm thinking Polycharged Z-6 will maintain that shine all winter long!

wannafbody · 10-23-06, 07:27

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Originally Posted by DavidB

Sharp looking paint!

I'm thinking Polycharged Z-6 will maintain that shine all winter long!

BLING BLING BLING- but won't that defeat the purpose of trying to monitor the durability of Polycharged Z vs ZFX'd Z

DavidB · 10-23-06, 07:35

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Originally Posted by wannafbody

BLING BLING BLING- but won't that defeat the purpose of trying to monitor the durability of Polycharged Z vs ZFX'd Z

How else is he going to keep it looking sharp on snow days?