RDF #49 BETA2 Testing

DavidB · 10-17-06, 12:48

RDF #49 Paint Sealant

Description

This product is a polymer based pure paint sealant. It is designed for all paints, clear plastic and smooth trim. It will not stain rubber or black plastic. It does not contain cleaners or abrasives. Given 24 hours cure time between coats, it can be layered to improve gloss and depth.

Changes from Beta 1 Test Product:

1. Thinner and easier to apply
2. Added slight fragrance (not final)
3. Reduced level of detergent resistent polymer to increase slickness.

This product is being designed to:

1. Outlast all paint sealant products currently available to consumers.
2. Offer a high-gloss, dark, wet-looking finish.
3. Offer exceptional protection from UV, ozone and pollution.
4. Offer high tolerance to heat, car wash detergents (used in touchless car wash systems), road salts and other corrosives that quickly deteriorate most car wax products.

Application

This product must be applied to a clean, dry finish. Paint must be thoroughly cleaned with an appropriate cleaner (clay or pre-wax cleaner polish) to remove all bonded contamination. Detailing clay is highly recommended prior to using this product.

Use a fine foam applicator (hand or machine) to apply this product. Allow product to haze before wiping off (10-15 minutes is normally enough time, but it can sit overnight if desired). Do not apply in direct sunlight. Apply to a cool surface.

Apply a very thin coating. One (1) ounce of product is enough to coat an average size car. Applying a heavy coat is wasteful and will not result in a more durable finish.

If desired, multiple coats may be applied. The product must be allowed to sit overnight before applying a second coat (to allow time for the polymers to cure).

The finish may be wiped with a light spritz of RDF Detail Spray for final wipe down. Other details sprays are not recommended. RDF Detail Spray is 100% compatible and will not interfere with the curing process.

Testing

Allow 24-48 hours prior to washing. Wash vehicle as normal, using a quality car wash.

DAY 1 JUDGING

1. How easy was the product to apply?
a. Goes on like butter and spreads evenly
b. Goes on easy, but does not spread well
c. A little difficult to apply
d. Very difficult to apply

2. How easy is the product to buff off?
a. Buffs off with little or no effort
b. Buffs off easy
c. Some difficulty removing film.
d. Very difficult to remove

3. Does product leave white residue on trim?
a. Yes
b. A little
c. No

4. What is the clarity of the finish after initial application?
a. Perfectly clear & masks fine imperfections (swirls)
b. Mostly clear & masks some imperfections
c. Hazy or Light streaks
d. Very Hazy or Heavy Streaks

5. How does the finish look after initial application?
a. Dark, wet and very glossy
b. A little darker and glossy
c. No better than the clean & polished finish
d. Worse than the clean & polished finish

6. How does the finish feel after initial application?
a. Silky smooth and very slippery
b. Silky smooth and some slickness
c. Smooth as the polish finished
d. Not as slick and smooth as the polished finish

DAY 2 JUDGING

Prior to day 2 judging, please lightly spritz and lightly buff the paint using the RDF Detail Spray provided.

1. What is the clarity of the finish?
a. Perfectly clear & masks fine imperfections (swirls)
b. Mostly clear & masks some imperfections
c. Hazy or Light streaks
d. Very Hazy or Heavy Streaks

2. How does the finish look?
a. Dark, wet and very glossy
b. A little darker and glossy
c. No better than the clean & polished finish
d. Worse than the clean & polished finish

3. How does the finish feel?
a. Silky smooth and very slippery
b. Silky smooth and some slickness
c. Smooth as the polish finished
d. Not as slick and smooth as the polished finish

DAY 3-5 JUDING

Prior to day 3-5 judging, please wash the car using your favorite car was shampoo. Dry thoroughly.

1. How well did the paint bead water?
a. Beads water like crazy!
b. Water sheeted of, but did not bead
c. Water beaded/sheeted slightly
d. Water did not bead or sheet at all

2. What is the clarity of the finish?
a. Perfectly clear & masks fine imperfections (swirls)
b. Mostly clear & masks some imperfections
c. Hazy or Light streaks
d. Very Hazy or Heavy Streaks

3. Did the clarity diminish since initial application:
a. Yes, a lot
b. Yes, a small amount
c. No

4. How does the finish look?
a. Dark, wet and very glossy
b. A little darker and glossy
c. No better than the clean & polished finish
d. Worse than the clean & polished finish

5. Is the finish as dark and glossy as it was after initial application?
a. Yes
b. Mostly
c. No

6. How does the finish feel?
a. Silky smooth and very slippery
b. Silky smooth and some slickness
c. Smooth as the polish finished
d. Not as slick and smooth as the polished finish

7. Is the finish as slick and smooth as it was after initial application?
a. Slickness improved
b. Slickness is the same
c. Slickness slightly diminished
d. Slickness greatly diminished

wannafbody · 10-17-06, 03:20

won't the reducing of the detergent resistant polymer result in decreased durability vs the original formula?

atticdog · 10-17-06, 03:28

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Originally Posted by wannafbody

won't the reducing of the detergent resistant polymer result in decreased durability vs the original formula?

that was my first thought also

DavidB · 10-17-06, 03:37

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Originally Posted by wannafbody

won't the reducing of the detergent resistant polymer result in decreased durability vs the original formula?

Yes, but...

1. The RDF Detail Spray contains the same polymers, so it will act as a natural booster.

2. The RDF Spray Sealant will come bundled with the RDF #49 Paint Sealant.

3. Polycharger for Sealants boosts RDF #49 to an amazing level if that's what you want.

I don't want to spoil/taint your testing results by giving my $.02 worth, but I will be anxious to get your feedback on the Sealant & Spray combo when used together.

wannafbody · 10-17-06, 04:00

I'm not one of the testers-I was just curious.

SamIam · 10-18-06, 08:40

David,

Is this where I should post my review?

Great stuff. I don't know what the initial batch was like, but this is a very nice product. Questionaire
DAY 1 JUDGING

1. How easy was the product to apply?
a. Goes on like butter and spreads evenly
I thought the product was easy to use. Once the pad, a foam applicator, had some product on it, RDF was easy to spread. The product still had some "body" to it, but not an issue. I know understand the comments some others made initially. I put it on a bit heavy on the first couple panels because of the nature of the product, but then no issues. Once the pad is saturated, you need to put barely any on the pad to work it.

2. How easy is the product to buff off?
a. Buffs off with little or no effort
I was really surprised on how easy it was to buff off. Even on the hood, where I was a bit heavy, it came right off. Since it was a bit cool here, in the 60s, and I went in for dinner, it sat on the car for 2 hours or so. Product came off easier than anything I've used, including Zaino Z5 or Z2, Glanz, NXT, UPP, anything. Really easy off.

3. Does product leave white residue on trim?
c. No
None from what I saw.

4. What is the clarity of the finish after initial application?
a. Perfectly clear & masks fine imperfections (swirls)
Looked clear to me and I didn't notice any swirls, but then, either I have none, or the paint color hides it really well. I'm not sure on the masking fine imperfections, it might, but looked very clear to me.

5. How does the finish look after initial application?
a. Dark, wet and very glossy
The car I used, a Lexus with a pearl white paint job looked very glossy and reflective. The metal flake jumped out. I guess the paint might be a bit darker, but mostly just lots of very glossy metal flake.

6. How does the finish feel after initial application?
a. Silky smooth and very slippery
Paint feels soft and smooth, like I remember UPP feeling, only I believe it feels a bit "softer'. Feels slippery, maybe not as slippery as UPP, but maybe it is. Been awhile since I used UPP. Similar to Zaino, only feels smoother, or maybe softer.

So far, my impression is:
Easy on, easy off. Incredibly easy to work with.
Great shine.
I love the dispensing bottle. It looks like a skin conditioner/hand creme bottle, which makes sense, as the product is about the consistency of hand creme, I thought.
I like the way you can tell there's something "on" the paint.

DavidB · 10-19-06, 05:04

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Originally Posted by SamIam

David,
Is this where I should post my review?

Yes, please!

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Originally Posted by SamIam

I love the dispensing bottle.

FYI, the final packaging will use the same pump dispenser and the new micro-fine sprayers with a much nicer bottle design.

Pats300zx · 10-19-06, 06:36

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FYI, the final packaging will use the same pump dispenser and the new micro-fine sprayers with a much nicer bottle design.

I love the packaging David. Especially the spray bottles. Very sharp with a nice touch...

foxtrapper · 10-19-06, 06:42

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Originally Posted by DavidB

Reduced level of detergent resistent polymer...

Damn, sorry to hear that. I've been looking forward to RedDot 49 with eagerness as it's sounded like a product that's perfect for me and people like me. Folks who like a pretty car, but don't like to do the work to get it pretty very often.

Now it sounds like it's going to be less appealing.

Still very interested, but now a little less so.

SamIam · 10-19-06, 07:56

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Originally Posted by foxtrapper

Damn, sorry to hear that. I've been looking forward to RedDot 49 with eagerness as it's sounded like a product that's perfect for me and people like me. Folks who like a pretty car, but don't like to do the work to get it pretty very often.

Now it sounds like it's going to be less appealing.

Still very interested, but now a little less so.

3. Polycharger for Sealants boosts RDF #49 to an amazing level if that's what you want.

Looks like that's your answer

foxtrapper · 10-19-06, 08:49

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Originally Posted by SamIam

3. Polycharger for Sealants boosts RDF #49 to an amazing level if that's what you want.

Looks like that's your answer

When the mixing and boosting comments came up in the other thread, I was fascinated by that. If I can make my car look like it was dipped in plastic, and stay that way for a year with me ignoring it, I'm gonna be in heaven. Heck, probably half the world will be.

DavidB · 10-19-06, 08:57

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Originally Posted by foxtrapper

When the mixing and boosting comments came up in the other thread, I was fascinated by that. If I can make my car look like it was dipped in plastic, and stay that way for a year with me ignoring it, I'm gonna be in heaven. Heck, probably half the world will be.

Making OEM paint look like show car paint takes a combination of polishing (paint perfecting) and paint enhancement (coating). One or the other will not get paint where most car fanatics want it to be.

That said, we are working on a new polishing product & technique that will be as much a leap in technology and process as RDF #49 is in polymer protection. More info after the initial patents are registered.

Y'all taint see notin yet!