Just got the UDM, have a few questions

95maxrider · 08-17-07, 01:10

I’ve never used a machine buffer before, so I’m a little confused by the Sonüs DAS FlexPlate. What is it, and why do I need it (foam, wool pads)? Can I use the UDM without one?

Right now I have the DAS bundle pack, and will be using the Ultima PP+ and PGP.

If I want to remove heavier oxidation and scratches when using the PP+, can I use the white SB pad then go straight to applying the PGP, or do I need to finish with green polishing pad? How does Ultima PP+ w/ScratchBuster pad compare to a real polish? Can PP+/SB be used all over car, or should it only be used to spot treat large scratches?

What speed should I use for each pad? How do I know when I've worked in the PP+ enough? And what's the best method for cleaning my pads?

DavidB · 08-17-07, 02:17

FlexPlate is our name for the UDM Velcro backing plate. It was originally part of out Sonus line. We have transitioned all DAS (Dual-Action System) products to the UDM line.

Note: I do not recommend wool pads with a dual-action machine. Foam pads are better for compounding on a DA machine.

The DAS ScratchBuster pad and Ultima PP+ combination will remove mmoderate swirl marks and fine scratches. Apply at speed 5+ with the UDM with firm pressure. If you car is black you may need a final buff with the DAS Polishing Pad (green). I find this rare, but it depends on the paint.

Work PP+ until a very thin film is remaining. Do not buff dry. If you find it dufficult to buff off, you're using too much polish.

95maxrider · 08-17-07, 03:06

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Originally Posted by DavidB

FlexPlate is our name for the UDM Velcro backing plate. It was originally part of out Sonus line. We have transitioned all DAS (Dual-Action System) products to the UDM line.

Note: I do not recommend wool pads with a dual-action machine. Foam pads are better for compounding on a DA machine.

The DAS ScratchBuster pad and Ultima PP+ combination will remove mmoderate swirl marks and fine scratches. Apply at speed 5+ with the UDM with firm pressure. If you car is black you may need a final buff with the DAS Polishing Pad (green). I find this rare, but it depends on the paint.

Work PP+ until a very thin film is remaining. Do not buff dry. If you find it dufficult to buff off, you're using too much polish.

Thanks David.
So when would I use the FlexPlate? I don't understand it's purpose. Can I use the DAS pads without it, or does it simply make them easier to use?

And wool pads are a no-no on the UDm, good to know.

To remove the PP+, should I use a MF towel or can I use the white MF buffing bonnet that's included with the DAS bundle?

Lynn Phillips · 08-17-07, 04:15

The flexplate is needed to attach the pads, it is a Velcro hook and loop system and the only way to attach the pads.

As far as removing the product, you can use either a microfiber or the bonnet.

Lynn

95maxrider · 08-17-07, 04:38

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Originally Posted by Lynn Phillips

The flexplate is needed to attach the pads, it is a Velcro hook and loop system and the only way to attach the pads.

As far as removing the product, you can use either a microfiber or the bonnet.

Lynn

Thanks for the quick response, I guess I won't be doing any detailing tomorrow

Is there any reason why it isn't included with the UDM if it's necessary? Because people already have one?

phamkl · 08-17-07, 09:58

There should be a backing plate already attached to the machine.

95maxrider · 08-21-07, 01:53

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Originally Posted by phamkl

There should be a backing plate already attached to the machine.

Ok, now I'm confused. Do I attach the flexplate to the backing plate, then attach the pads?

How do other pads perform on the UDM, such as the SFX pads? Are they the correct size?

DavidB · 08-21-07, 01:59

The FlexPlate is the backing plate. See picture below.

In addition to the new Ultimate Detailing Machine DAS pads, I have thoroughly tested the Sonus SFX pads line and the Meguiar's SOFTBUFF 6.5" pad line with the UDM. They all work well.

Amused · 08-21-07, 02:27

That's good news. I really like my Meguiar's Softbuff polishing pads. I was hoping that they wouldn't fail from the added torque.

95maxrider · 08-21-07, 02:31

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Originally Posted by DavidB

The FlexPlate is the backing plate. See picture below.

Thank you once again David. So all I need to get going with the UDM (excluding pads) is included with the package? Is there a reason why you sell the FlexPlate seperately?

DavidB · 08-21-07, 03:38

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Originally Posted by 95maxrider

Thank you once again David. So all I need to get going with the UDM (excluding pads) is included with the package? Is there a reason why you sell the FlexPlate seperately?

Sure... every once in a while a gorilla gets a hold of a UDM or PC and manages to break the backing plate.

WilliamHBonney · 08-21-07, 08:10

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Originally Posted by DavidB

Sure... every once in a while a gorilla gets a hold of a UDM or PC and manages to break the backing plate.

Leave me out of this. Ive fried three backing plates in two years. I dont know if I have crummy luck or Im too rough with the PC/UDM. The material just separated from the bottom of the plate to the top.