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04-27-09, 12:56
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gofastman is offline
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Meguiar's #4 or #84 for extreme fiberglass oxidation
my friend wants me to clean his boat up a bit, it has been very neglected and the exterior feels like chalk, Im thinking its gonna take some muscle to cut through this stuff, should I start out with one of these (#4 or #84) and a LC purple foam or orange pad on a rotary? I have never done a boat so I really dont know what to expect
also, once its cleaned up should I hit it with a paint sealant or something like 303?
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04-27-09, 01:34
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Re: Meguiar's #4 or #84 for extreme fiberglass oxidation
I had the same problem on a recent detail I have done.
Go to your local west marine and pick up 3M Rubbing Compound. Will have green letters. Its sand in a bottle. Also, pick up a wool compound pad, it will cut through the oxidation perfectly.
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04-27-09, 01:39
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Re: Meguiar's #4 or #84 for extreme fiberglass oxidation
I like to use 105 and wool. If you need something more agressive than 105, I go straight towards wet sanding! Got pics of the job at hand?
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04-27-09, 07:21
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Re: Meguiar's #4 or #84 for extreme fiberglass oxidation
Go get this kit and don't even bother with a foam pad on chaulky gel coated fiberglass... get big wool pads and lots of them. You'll be going through a ton of them in a poor condition boat.
I can show you some of my boat before and afters if needed but trust me you're in a for loooooooong few days to get it all right.
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04-28-09, 08:58
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Re: Meguiar's #4 or #84 for extreme fiberglass oxidation
the kit mentioned above with Wool is the best combo around....
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04-29-09, 11:00
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Re: Meguiar's #4 or #84 for extreme fiberglass oxidation
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Originally Posted by Jakerooni
Go get this kit and don't even bother with a foam pad on chaulky gel coated fiberglass... get big wool pads and lots of them. You'll be going through a ton of them in a poor condition boat.
I can show you some of my boat before and afters if needed but trust me you're in a for loooooooong few days to get it all right.
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Im using that kit on a 1973 MFG that is orange that has never been buffed. The boat is pretty much all white from being oxidized for so long. With the oxidization remover the gelcoat is coming out shiny orange again.
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04-29-09, 11:30
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Re: Meguiar's #4 or #84 for extreme fiberglass oxidation
I strongly sugggest that if the boat is very bad (chalky) that you use agressive sanding working your way down to say 1500grit then break out the polish. Compounding a boat that is bad takes more time than, wet sanding it............every experience I have had, its faster.
Cheers,
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04-30-09, 06:28
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Re: Meguiar's #4 or #84 for extreme fiberglass oxidation
+1 for the 3M with the green letters, worked amazing on bringing back the hull (white) of my 1996 SeaDoo GTX, took 2/3 passes though.
I recently just did my 21' Crownline that has some black and some white. I used purple wool pad with M105 on my G110, worked wonders, never thought I'd see the black that black, however, it didn't work wonders on the white...evened it out but didn't get an amazing shine. Good Luck
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05-02-09, 05:51
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Re: Meguiar's #4 or #84 for extreme fiberglass oxidation
I hate wet sanding found a compund from Presta called Super Cut i cant find it on their site but they have it here Super Cut
or you can try this....... Gel Coat Compound
ive used Presta with good results they also say not to use either of these on cars, ive never tried espesscially after you feel the grit in this stuff....
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05-02-09, 06:00
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Re: Meguiar's #4 or #84 for extreme fiberglass oxidation
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Originally Posted by Jakerooni
Go get this kit and don't even bother with a foam pad on chaulky gel coated fiberglass... get big wool pads and lots of them. You'll be going through a ton of them in a poor condition boat.
I can show you some of my boat before and afters if needed but trust me you're in a for loooooooong few days to get it all right.
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The kit/advice mentioned above will be your best bet. The only thing I would ad,Wash the thing with A.P.C. you will not believe all the white crap that comes off doing this.This will surely save you a Pad or 3.  Wet sanding should not be nescecary
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05-02-09, 06:44
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Re: Meguiar's #4 or #84 for extreme fiberglass oxidation
For heavy oxidation on a gel coat, you need to get somewhat mideval.
Twisted wool, rotary, and a heavy cut marine compound are a must. Most likely wet sanding too.
Need to get way more agressive than you would ever dare on auto paint.
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05-02-09, 06:57
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Re: Meguiar's #4 or #84 for extreme fiberglass oxidation
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Originally Posted by smprince1
For heavy oxidation on a gel coat, you need to get somewhat mideval.
Twisted wool, rotary, and a heavy cut marine compound are a must. Most likely wet sanding too.
Need to get way more agressive than you would ever dare on auto paint.
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