Fight it or Pay it? - Page 4

G35stilez · 07-31-06, 02:33

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Originally Posted by kompressornsc

Wondered why nobody else said anything about that! Me thinks you have a problem...

That's like 3 times a year - I've been pulled over 3 times in my life (and I'm 12 years older than you).

About 18 of those were in my first 3 years of driving. Not only did I like to push the envelope, my cars weren't always up to spec (illegal lighting, no front plate, tint).

In the recent years, I've only been pulled over about 3 or 4 times. If you've seen my Integra (sold), you'd think that's remarkable.

I've slowed down and wised up a lot. My rebellious years (on the road) are over.

I purely put it up there to let people know that I've dealt with a few officers (

) and have been rather succesful (lucky) with the outcome.

Diesel1 · 07-31-06, 02:58

Ehhh depends on where you live (Regarding the number of times you get pulled over). Certain areas of Queens, BK, Manhattan, you can drink on the streets, smoke weed (Obviously not blatantly), etc and the cops don't bust chops. Other parts, you can have a license plate frame from the dealer on, and get pulled over. My buddy's aunt who is 60 recently got pulled over and ticketed in NJ for having a dealer installed license frame (The free advertising one) on her camry. Too me that's a bit much!

I have been pulled over about 17 times or so and only 1 for a "moving violation" which was pull over #1 when I was a kid. I sat a light for about 10 minutes and watched it cycle through 2 rotations as it skipped my arrow, I figured the light was broke, there was no one on the road, etc.

Anyway, I don't see how you don't get points if you plead guilty and do get points if you try to fight it. To me, that doesn't make sense.

My take on it is all dependant upon the insurance company finding out. If you really don't get points, then it's cheaper to pay. If you do, then it's better to get a lawyer and fight (Cheaper in long run).

The issue I have is that the local municipalities, around by me at least, are just looking to get any money they can because the dumbarse politicians don't know how to balance a checkbook! So they often hand out tickets for stupid reason knowing that most people will just pay them since the cost of taking a day off from work + the hassle = more headache and cost then just paying. I hate this practice and it happens all the time! What if this was teh case in Stilez' case? Was the cop really in proper position to witness the "possible" infraction?

Since you already paid the ticket ( I am guessing you're trying the pay extra myth), it's a moot point, but I think you would have to just weigh out the costs and decide from there. I don't know about CT but in NY I think traffic infractions stay on your license for about 39 months or something like that. Maybe that paying extra thing will work! I never knew anyone that actually tried it.

I think we all know how much it stinks!

Bill D · 07-31-06, 02:58

I haven't had an incident with a LEO since '98

(and then there was that case when I was rear ended by an off duty one in '99

) but I can relate to the ridiculous BS Sean had to put up with. I had to hire a former Gloucester county prosecutor to make sure I didn't get points. Glad everything here seems to have worked out.

CleanGSR · 08-04-06, 01:28

I work in the Judicial system in my circuit and am friends with the prosecutor and judges. Our prosecutor is a really cool guy and in a lot of situations he'll amend the charge to a non-moving violation and up the fine (say to $250) At first that seems worse, but it keeps your insurance rates down so you save in the long run, also the county collects more money, so in a sense everybody wins (except the sleazy insurance companies). My point is, go to the prosecutor's office before your court date and request to talk to the prosecutor, and explain your situation to him. The worst they could say is no, you'll have to pay the fine. If he/she is a halfway "cool" person, then they might work with you. It's worth a shot in my opinion. Respect usually goes a long ways with prosecutors.

DaGonz · 08-04-06, 01:44

Sean.. you did the right thing by paying the ticket and chalking it up to experience.

$124 is cheap compared to years of paying points and higher premiums.

Everyone lambastes the cops.. except when it is their emergency the cops are responding to.

2000firebird · 08-10-06, 04:46

i just went through something similar, he might be BSing you about not getting points off you pay it. if i would of just payed my ticket, it would of been a automatic 4 points on my license. bullcrap. I set a date and went to court, before the judge started the cop came and pulled his people outside to talk about the tickets. he asked if i wanted to still fight it or if i would be okay with him just writing the ticket off as 'impeding' in which i would receive no points. i really didnt have a case against him i think i could of won with.. so i just said yes sir il take that. i still had to pay 110$ but received no points. if you can get away with not having the points, definately take it. I would check with your state to make sure that you won't receive the points if you just pay the ticket, sounds fishy.

wlhump · 08-10-06, 07:06

Just make sure you are not getting any points!
I went to court to plead "not guilty" on a speeding ticket (just to delay the timing) and was told by the bailiff (sp) as I was arranging a court date, "Why bother, per the section of the law you have been cited, you will not get any points." So I turned right around to the judge and amended my plea to "no contest".

Well, 2 weeks later, the points appeared. GRRRRR!

The only good thing was, as I was discussing the point situation, the guy behind me tried to bribe the judge with a $200 check for a DUI!! Judge said in court "What's this?? A check! For $200. Made out to me!" Told the guy (not US) "I don't know how it works in your country, but here, this is a crime. I recommend you take this back, we'll forget about it and you must get yourself a lawyer."
It was a good laugh for most of the courtroom

C-westin'FD · 08-12-06, 09:40

i'd pay the ticket

grrroundhog · 09-11-06, 11:44

To my understanding, in CT, "no points" does NOT mean the insurance company will never find out.

Sure, by paying the ticket for the red light violation, you are effectively pleading "no contest" and the DMV spares you the points on your license. BUT regardless of whether or not you are issued points, the CT DMV keeps records of ALL tickets issued and paid (3 yrs for minor, 10 yrs for major) ... and you can bet your butt that your insurance company will find out at next renewal time when they check the DMV records.

It's different in states like NJ, where insurance companies just look for the number of points on your record.