12-20-05, 04:07
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Originally Posted by FrizzleFry The production lines would need to be altered. It isn't just the added cost of the actual material used for sealing... it's also for the machines required to do this task... maintenance, added space, etc. | Not really. Most manufacturers already do seal most of their products (for good reasons, as I've indicated). It is trivial to change their designs to enable them to seal ALL of their product lines. | |
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12-20-05, 04:09
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Originally Posted by Shubba I was referring to the poll results, not the posted messages. Duh! | Hmm as of right now 43% don't care at all, only 12% say they wouldn't buy a product without a seal. The rest may care but, your poll options are too vague as to whether they care enough to not buy the product anyway. Give it time, those of us who don't give a rats arse will get past the 50% mark. | |
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12-20-05, 04:09
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Originally Posted by Shubba Hmmm, another microcephalic response that avoids addressing the issue. Next! | I resent that! I have a large enough head that I can worry about better things than if my easily returnable $10 bottle has been 30% decanted.
Clearly, you haven't gotten any in a while. NEXT
p.s. change your damn font size!! And you're giving some excellent publicity to Mothers, this attention is worth at least 1000 more Synwaxes sold. | |
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12-20-05, 04:10
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Originally Posted by COBRyan Does your position only include local products (for instance- Walmart, Autozone, etc) or do you also have concerns with mail order products? What about products that can be bought company direct and do not have seals (Zaino, Poorboy's, Clearkote, Optimum, Chemical Guys)?
If that would bother you, then surely you wouldn't but these same unsealed products that can be bought from a distributor (Specialty Motoring, Autogeek, Pak Shak) correct? If you would buy direct from the maker (without a seal), do you have trust issues with the distributors? |
I'd be more likely to buy unsealed products via mail order, but the same issue of returns exist, and one wonders why companies would send unsealed liquids by mail! | |
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12-20-05, 04:11
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Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy Finally!!! The answer as to why people get different results with the same products! It's not different environments, different paint, different prep, different techniques...it's that some of the products HAVE BEEN TAMPERED WITH!!!! I demand a congressional investigation! Seals for all products! Veni, vedi, vici! Thank you, Shubba. |  | |
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12-20-05, 04:13
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Originally Posted by rjstaaf Hmm as of right now 43% don't care at all, only 12% say they wouldn't buy a product without a seal. The rest may care but, your poll options are too vague as to whether they care enough to not buy the product anyway. Give it time, those of us who don't give a rats arse will get past the 50% mark. |
People like you are the reason why manufacturers have dropped the quality standards on so many fronts nowadays. It's a rush to the bottom, using cheap Asian labor to churn out junky, ultra-cheap products in sweatshops for undiscriminating and easily pleased Homer Simpson-like consumers. D'oh! | |
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12-20-05, 04:14
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Originally Posted by Shubba
I'd be more likely to buy unsealed products via mail order, but the same issue of returns exist, and one wonders why companies would send unsealed liquids by mail! | Well I have had products leak on me in the mail, but they were replaced without question. As far as the issues with return, I still don't grasp your concern! If you sent a bottle of polish back to the maker for a return, sure they could just refill and re-seal it if they wanted. A reputable company who wants to stick around in this business probably would just throw it in the trash and move on (or maybe test it to see if was a defect batch).
Then it turns into an issue of trusting the maker rather than trusting that it is sealed.
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12-20-05, 04:17
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Originally Posted by Shubba
People like you are the reason why manufacturers have dropped the quality standards on so many fronts nowadays. It's a rush to the bottom, using cheap Asian labor to churn out junky, ultra-cheap products in sweatshops for undiscriminating and easily pleased Homer Simpson-like consumers. D'oh! | People like you are the reason why people like you have no friends.  | |
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12-20-05, 04:18
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Originally Posted by Shubba
People like you are the reason why manufacturers have dropped the quality standards on so many fronts nowadays. It's a rush to the bottom, using cheap Asian labor to churn out junky, ultra-cheap products in sweatshops for undiscriminating and easily pleased Homer Simpson-like consumers. D'oh! | Hmm, pretty racist comment there. So everything Asian made is "cheap" and "junky"?
Hmm are we seeing some of your true colors now? | |
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12-20-05, 04:18
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Originally Posted by COBRyan Well I have had products leak on me in the mail, but they were replaced without question. As far as the issues with return, I still don't grasp your concern! If you sent a bottle of polish back to the maker for a return, sure they could just refill and re-seal it if they wanted. A reputable company who wants to stick around in this business probably would just throw it in the trash and move on. | Bryan, you miss the point. An unsealed product can be mailed out, adulterated, then mailed back for full refund, then resold. Sure, does not happen a lot, but my experience with buying via the 'net in recent years is that quite a lot of stuff gets sent back and then re-sold. I've had electronic and camera equipment sold to me that was clearly sold before, as I could tell from the state of the cables, etc. | |
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12-20-05, 04:21
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12-20-05, 04:21
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Originally Posted by rjstaaf Hmm, pretty racist comment there. So everything Asian made is "cheap" and "junky"? Hmm are we seeing some of your true colors now? |
I see you have reading comprehension problems. Labor is cheap in Asia. Is that a racist statement? Discuss. Cheap and junky product are produced in Asia (as are very high quality products). Is that a racist statement? NEXT. | |
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