03-04-04, 10:34
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Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,464 | Which Polish? I recently purchased some 1Z Paint Polish & Glanz Wax from Autopia. Quite a few members suggested using a final polish or glaze inbetween the PP and a carnuaba(S100) or sealant(Glanz). I'd like to know which polish would you recommend or pick? I'm considering either Vanilla Moose or Menzerna Final Polish. No buffer so everything will be applied by hand. Heard Menzerna can be hard to apply and buff off, if that is true I think i'm gonna go with Vanilla Moose which is what I was originally thinking. I'm open to any other suggestions.
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03-04-04, 10:43
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Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 380 | What color is your car? If you have a medium to light colored paint you should be able to just go straight to GW without adding another product. If your paint is dark you could use 1Z's Metallic Polish to clean up any marring. If you are using 1Z products I wouldn't use something that is going to remove the wax and gloss enhancers that are in the polish (unless you are going to be using Zaino or AIO, then you would need to remove them). Besides since you are hand-applying, I wouldn't recommend using Menzerna that way, just me, but the 1Z products are very easy to use
Don't clutter the process with products that you really don't need, your wallet will thank you! 
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03-04-04, 10:57
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Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,464 | Macgirl you seem to be a very big advocate of the 1Z lineup. Everytime I search for info on them your bound to show up..lol. My truck is a metallic (Royal Blue) which is why i though one more step would improve the appearance and give it a little more. Would using the Vanilla Moose be a waste and remove any of the 1Z paint polish? I think under the description of FP it doesn't say anything about hand applications, so maybe that wouldn't be a good decision? I probably should have just ordered the 1Z Metallic polish..but I got some time to decide and make money. My next detail, whenever the Wolfgang arrives will be a test of their products which Im really looking forward to. | |
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03-04-04, 11:09
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Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 380 | Johnny,
Yes, I love 1Z stuff! I find them very effective and efficient. I'm thinking of changing my little description under my username to "1Z Addict." Anyway, do a test on a panel section with just the Paint Polish and step back and look at it in different lighting, you may not even need another step if you have been careful washing your car and such. I can't really comment on Vanilla Moose's performance, since I haven't used it; I want to say that Scottwax uses it but I've not real sure. I can say that if you order the Metallic Polish you won't be disappointed. Maybe someone who has used Vanilla Moose can chime in on it....
Good luck!
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03-04-04, 11:14
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Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 20,382 | I'd go with the 1Z Metallic Polish also. I'd still use the PP to remove any marring, but add a quick pass with the MP afterwards. It'd really make your metallic pant "pop". But it's not REALLY necessary, so just use the GW after your PP for now.
I really like VM, but when I use 1Z PP I don't use VM over it. Yeah, the VM will remove some of the 1Z stuff. And *I* don't think adding the VM would improve the look, either. I use VM on some cars, 1Z on others. I do a lot of cross-manufacturer mixing, but I don't mix those particular products. | |
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03-04-04, 11:32
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Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 1,737 | MP is all you really need. I use VM on other cars but on my own I stick with 1Z all the way.
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03-04-04, 11:49
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Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,464 | I got another question for you 1Z users. How often do you need to apply 1Z PP? I plan on polishing/waxing my truck every 3 months. I know 1Z PP is moderate aggresive and shoud hide swirls but shoud I be applying this every 3 months? I guess the answer really lies in how my paint looks in 3 months. Just wondering how many times do you use 1Z PP? I think if i get 1Z MP or VM it wouldn't matter. If I don't need to use 1Z PP every 3 months then I guess I can use VM as a light polish then go to the carnuaba or if i get 1Z MP I can use it then go to the carnuaba. I guess 1Z MP has the advantage in my situation because I can use it after PP or on its own. This question will now be bugging me all day and night. | |
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03-04-04, 12:03
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Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 1,737 | After your initial application of PP, I usually only use it as needed. So far it has been six months since I used it on my wife's Mustang. I use MP every three months and Glanz Wax once a month.
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03-04-04, 12:23
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Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 380 | I agree, only use your abrasive polish on as "as needed" basis. I would think if you used it [PP] twice a year you would be fine, but for every three months go with something milder, like the MP. Just my opinion.
FYI, the Glanz should be lasting longer than a month. Are you having an issue with the durability? Just interested. I was told in an email from 1Z that when water forms dime-sized beads then you should reapply the Glanz.
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03-04-04, 12:43
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Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 1,737 | Macgirl, I apply GW monthly even if it does not need it. I just do it as part of my maintenace regimen. It is probably not needed. Spruh Wax probably works as well.
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03-04-04, 12:53
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Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 455 | Isn't all Polish by definition abrasive? I thought polish was abrasive and glaze was non-abrasive.
Anyway, the 1Z Metallic Polish is so lightly abrasive, I wouldn't hesitate to use it regularly.
I guess that SEC and GEPC are pretty mild also. | |
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03-04-04, 12:55
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Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 1,737 | Quote: Originally posted by MartyGrant Could you please name several really good NON-ABRASIVE polishes for this rookie? I'm not familiar with some of the products discussed in this post.Thanks. | Clearkote's Vanilla Moose, Poorboys's Polish with Carnuba, GEPC, Klassse AIO, Einszett Metallic Polish and many more quality products then I can mention.
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