05-04-03, 06:21
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| | ExRecovering Zainoholic
Nick T. is offline
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 601 | What type of applicator do you use? Quote: Originally posted in another thread by 4DSC Sometimes I've found normal waxing with a foam pad alone can shear off some of the contamination from the paint just like clay does. That's why I have to change (or flip/rotate) applicators sometimes and find it's picking up dirt, even though I was sure to clean the paint first. | Foam, terry, microfiber pad, or microfiber towel? What do you think is best, and why?
In my never ending battle to end micro-marring on my black paint it occurred to me that maybe the applicators were partially to blame, so having an <B>e</B>nquiring mind I wanted to know what the differences are between the various applicators. Heres what you can do to duplicate my experimenting:
Get new and unused pads, a foam pad, a terry pad, and a microfiber pad. Pick a relatively mar free area on your paint. Put <B>no product</B> on any of the pads and rub a small area with moderate pressure using each <B>dry</B> pad. You probably gonna say, <I>What? Rub my beautiful paint with a <B>dry</B> applicator! Not in this lifetime!</I> Well, I did - and now I know why I use what I use. BTW, it did take some polishing to get rid of the marring that the testing caused.
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05-05-03, 02:58
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| | "That ball wasn't low"
blkZ28Conv is offline
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: VIR Road Course, Va Posts: 5,685 | I use a variant. The sponge that is found inside a terry applicator. This small-cell sponge is great for applying thin coats of products and appear very gentle to my black finish.
I do use terry and foam for my polishing / cleansing steps because of their slight "cutting" capabilities.
Nick, what were your results? 
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05-05-03, 05:53
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Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Vernon, NJ Posts: 80 | What were the results of your experiment?
I know one individual who applies wax to his finish with his fingertips. Apparently it takes forever, but he swears by the method. He claims no marring and uses very little product.
His car always looks great, but its red (very forgiving IMO). | |
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05-05-03, 07:10
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Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Mississauga (Toronto) Canada Posts: 950 | Many actually apply wax by hand. The heat from your hands melt the carnuba. It also allows you to assess your paint at the same time and see if there are any bonded contaminates. I tried it once and found it a bit messy and time consuming so I went back to old faithful and use a foam pad.
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05-05-03, 04:46
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Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 2,212 | I use a terry pad for anything with cleaning ability. The terry seems to have a bit more "bite". Foam if it's a pure wax, which I just slather on with almost no pressure.
For Klasse, I have been using the terry covered foam pads so far, but because of uneven spreading, I may go to pure foam pads soon.
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05-05-03, 07:35
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Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 252 | i use terry for inside stuff and foam type pads for outside stuff
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05-06-03, 07:10
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Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 433 | I have been using terry pads the last few times I have polished/waxed the cars, but I don't like the uneven application of product. I will definitely switch back to foam, unless I am applying Zaino of course.
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05-06-03, 09:47
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| | ExRecovering Zainoholic
Nick T. is offline
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 601 | Quote: Originally posted by blkZ28Conv Nick, what were your results? | The results were very surprising to me!
I collected some pads (yellow, blue, and gray foam, terry, and MF), positioned a halogen over my front fender, and QDd the test area. Had some second thoughts about doing this - wasnt looking forward to repairing the probable damage - but proceeded anyway. I gradually applied more pressure to each pad in turn, checking often for marring - and found that it took pretty heavy pressure to get even the slightest marring. All pads past the test with flying colors! There was little or no difference between any of the pads that I used.
This testing changed my mind about pad selection! IMO it would take a lab testing environment to detect any significant difference between any of these pads. In the real world I think the choice boils down to two factors; evenness of product application and how it feels in your hand.
My choice has been to use small squares of MF towel for wax/sealant because, being an old fart, I just cant get used to using these new-fangled pads!
<B>YMMV!</B>
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05-06-03, 09:56
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| | "That ball wasn't low"
blkZ28Conv is offline
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: VIR Road Course, Va Posts: 5,685 | Cool test.
Now we see why there are so many personal choices of pad usages and they are all correct. 
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05-06-03, 10:00
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Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Minneapolis MN Posts: 49 | The same couldn't be true of the polishes and waxes could it? :P
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05-06-03, 12:37
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| | Cya, & take the care eh?
4DSC is offline
Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC, Ca Posts: 5,844 | Nice test Nick, thanks!
I just remembered I did post up a CD scratch test a while back where I tested a Turtle Wax terry covered applicator and was surprised to find it didn't harm it. I've been using that for hand polishing and Megs foam pads for glazing/waxing.
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07-10-03, 01:28
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Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 140 | MF applicators all the way - actually I'm glad I saw this thread, I should probably order another half dozen. | |
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