Hot and cold hose bib

Aurora40 · 12-07-04, 08:56

Man, I'm having a heck of a time finding one that has two inlets and shut-offs. I want to run hot water out front through just one bib. Anyone done this? I checked out Home Depot and Lowes to no avail. I'd rather not have two bibs and some y-pipe...

And, any tips on drilling through the house? I can easily get to where the current cold-water bib/line comes out inside and such, but I've never drilled through an exterior wall of a building before...

skipperw · 12-07-04, 09:00

I bought mine at a store that sells Washing Machines. You need it to run Hot and Cold water into the machine.

Aurora40 · 12-07-04, 10:40

But a washing machine spout doesn't merge them together. If it has two spigots, I can't hook a hose up and get warm water. Do you have some kind of y-pipe after the bib?

zzyyzx · 12-07-04, 11:03

What type of exterior do you have on your house? If it's the cement fiberboard or brick, you'll need a masonry bit. Go to Lowes or HD and check there.

As far as the 2 in 1... It might take some jerry-rigging, but it will probably work. Might look a little tacky, so hopefully it will be in the basement or hidden well. Find a Y-Split. Run the Hot & Cold lines into the "female" part of the splitter, and then run the "male" part of the splitter through the wall. At that point, you could hook up a regular spigot or what ever then. If the Splitter is plastic, you might want to put individual shut-offs on each line (this would also help control your mix) as I'm not sure how those things would hold up over time of being constantly under pressure.

Hot-----X--\ |
.................}---|--~
Cold ---X--/ |

(I know, I missed my calling... should have done ASCII art

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rjstaaf · 12-07-04, 11:21

Here ya go Bob

(Scroll Down, it is the last product pictured on the page)
http://www.keidel.com/mech/pvf/valve-ext.htm

Here is the Google search I used, didn't go through all the results so you might find another.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ot+and+cold%22

Aurora40 · 12-07-04, 12:47

Thanks guys! zzyyzx, if I put the join/y inside the house, I'd have to go into the basement to adjust the temperature. I have vinyl siding, no idea about anything else (except it isn't brick). I'll just take a look at the existing hole when I pull out the cold bib first to make sure there isn't anything I need to be aware of.

Bob, that's what I'm looking for:

I was hoping someone would have the line on a local one so I could get started sooner, but I may just have to order one up. That freezeless is interesting, seems the actual shut-off is way back in it. Neat idea. I will use the kind of shut-off valve that has a little fitting on the side to drain the downstream side (stop and waste or something? some two word thing I can't think of now), so I'm not sure freezing will be a problem, but better safe than sorry, ehh?

I've worked with CPVC and am looking forward to my first time working with copper and a blowtorch!

rjstaaf · 12-07-04, 01:42

I'd love to do something similar at my house. I tend to wash the cars much quicker this time of year

It would be nice to have warm water to wash with.

Aurora40 · 12-07-04, 03:02

When we rented a townhouse I put in warm water, though I couldn't adjust the temp. It really helps. For one, dirt and stuff comes off a lot better with warm water. You can really see it in how much more easily crud comes out of wheelwells. But mainly it takes a lot less toll on my hands. It isn't until the drying stage that my hands start to freeze.

OI812 · 12-07-04, 03:07

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third I can tell you what you need to install it
fourth I can tell you what you need to drill the holes.

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Adamah · 12-07-04, 03:52

Listen to OI8 about the mixing valve. Its what your shower uses. And use a mapp gas torch to solder your joints.

Aurora40 · 12-07-04, 06:06

Yeah, it's a MAPP torch that I got.

Wouldn't a two-valved thing like that in the picture be less likely to have any leaking problems or crossover condition than a mixing valve? This thing will be outside the house, and I'd rather have something I probably won't ever have to mess with again.

OI812, I shot you a PM.

Thanks for the help folks!

OI812 · 12-07-04, 06:58

No guarantees in life, especially plumbing. Hey I need to make a living too