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03-17-09, 10:05
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Re: Fluorescent and incandescent lighting.
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Yes, in fact, that's the only way I do it.  The lights are placed such that I can just move a bit and get either a tube *or* a bulb to reflect on whatever I'm polishing. That allows me to check marring and gloss level at the same time.
I still use halogen stands for the vertical panels, though. I have one of those incandescents on the end of an extension cord. Your idea about using the fluorescents that go into standard bulb sockets has given me the idea of replacing my incandescent on the extension cord with a screw in type fluorescent for checking gloss on vertical panels.
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You can also get a fluorescent shop light too. This is what I use a lot:
fluorescent worklight, fluorescent work lights, Bayco ACE-507PDQ Deluxe Fluorescent Work Light - OneStopShopCatalog.com
I'll hang it in the interior to see better, like if I'm doing a car with super dark tinted windows. I also use it all of the time when cleaning and working on my motorcycles so I can see into the tight areas better.
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03-17-09, 10:12
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Re: Fluorescent and incandescent lighting.
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..You ever detail with both light sources on?
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Yes, in fact, that's the only way I do it...That allows me to check marring and gloss level at the same time.
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Noting there are a lotta variables here (position/mounting of the lights, issues of vision, etc.), I do most stuff with both on but I turn out all but the incandescents for my real inspecting. Seems that, *for me in my shop*, the fluorescents wash out the specific type of contrast I need to spot light marring.
OTOH, leaving the incandescents turned on doesn't seem to have any negative effect on seeing gloss/texture via the fluorescents.
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03-17-09, 10:17
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Re: Fluorescent and incandescent lighting.
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I can see that that is a web site I shouldn't go to without adult supervision. It's like a candy store.
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03-17-09, 10:18
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Re: Fluorescent and incandescent lighting.
What sort of incandescents are you using? That's probably something I need to look at as well. There are so many different types, like cool white and so on.
Also I was at Lowes and an employee was showing us the newer CF lighting and how now they have like 3 different colors. One is like a cool, bluish looking to me, another is like a neutral and the last one was "sunlight".
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03-17-09, 10:20
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Re: Fluorescent and incandescent lighting.
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The tube fixtures will for sure take forever to warm up and I always have troubles with the ballast and stuff.
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Get the hi-output style. They're up to full output in a few short seconds regardless how cold it is in the garage. I'm fairly certain Philips makes the ones I've got.
Would doing an array of CFLs be practical? I wonder if you would get enough output.
These new fangled T8 bulbs/fixtures kick some serious booty, visiting a lighting supply house to see these in action. They're intense, pun intended.
I've got a mix of regular incandescent and (long, hi-output) fluorescent. I can switch them independently. It works pretty well, but it seems you can never get "enough" light in the garage.
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03-17-09, 10:36
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Re: Fluorescent and incandescent lighting.
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Get the hi-output style. They're up to full output in a few short seconds regardless how cold it is in the garage. I'm fairly certain Philips makes the ones I've got.
Would doing an array of CFLs be practical? I wonder if you would get enough output.
These new fangled T8 bulbs/fixtures kick some serious booty, visiting a lighting supply house to see these in action. They're intense, pun intended.
I've got a mix of regular incandescent and (long, hi-output) fluorescent. I can switch them independently. It works pretty well, but it seems you can never get "enough" light in the garage.
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It just gets so much more expensive to do the cold start up ballast.
I think having CFL,s would be practical since they put out more lumens than the tubes. If you go over to the garage journal you can find people doing it and see some pics.
I hear that! LOL I'm never happy with the amount of light. At the old house it lit up like the 4th of July and I still wanted more.
Here is one garage I found using canister lights.
Compact Fluorescent vs Tubes - Page 3 - The Garage Journal Board
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03-17-09, 03:12
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Re: Fluorescent and incandescent lighting.
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What sort of incandescents are you using? That's probably something I need to look at as well. There are so many different types, like cool white and so on..
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I have metal-shaded ones suspended from the ceiling, those currently have frosted 300-320W bulbs in them.
My other garage, which *really* shows flaws well, has bare clear bulbs in the ceiling fixtures and those seem to show flaws even with low-wattage bulbs in them.
I have a hand-held trouble light with a metal shade that I use various wattages of bulbs in. Got it at Lowes for ~$25, they had them in a few types, look for one rated for high-wattage bulbs. It's not really convenient, but it works if you wrestle with it.
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03-18-09, 04:28
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Re: Fluorescent and incandescent lighting.
Good to know because I was going to go with the clear regular bulbs.
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