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Old 09-29-07, 06:19   #1 (permalink)
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Thoughts on Makita BO6040 or Bosch 1250DEVS??

We've been hearing a lot about the Flex XC 3410. Does anyone have experience with other forced rotation RO polishers like the Makita BO6040 or the Bosch 1250DEVS that they'd like to share?

I really like what I've read about the Flex, but I've only been able to find a comment or two on the others without any sort of in-depth review. ZoranC posted a picture thread of the Bosch but no comments on its use.
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Old 09-29-07, 07:35   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Thoughts on Makita BO6040 or Bosch 1250DEVS??

Well, we won't be hearing Zoran's in-depth review anytime soon as we was recently banned from this forum. He was planning a multiple polisher shoot-out including the Bosch and Flex. I think somebody was ponying up a Makita BO6040 to demo against as well. But it looks like we'll never see this materialize on this forum anyway...
 
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Old 09-29-07, 09:31   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Thoughts on Makita BO6040 or Bosch 1250DEVS??

i would've let him borrow my makita but i'm actually using it to sand things these days.
 
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Old 09-30-07, 05:54   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Thoughts on Makita BO6040 or Bosch 1250DEVS??

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Well, we won't be hearing Zoran's in-depth review anytime soon as we was recently banned from this forum.
He's banned? When/where did this happen?
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Re: Thoughts on Makita BO6040 or Bosch 1250DEVS??

I just bought and sent back the Bosch 1250DEVS. I was not impressed. Back to a UDM for me. Of the Bosch's 2 modes, on the polish mode it takes no pressure at all to stop the pad regardless of speed setting, on turbo mode it became awkward for me to work with. Just my opinoin.
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He's banned? When/where did this happen?
See this post

http://autopia.org/forum/hot-tub/974...ed-zoranc.html

A little short-sighted...maybe. As others have said, maybe we don't know the full story, but it seems like some petty things to get banned for.
 
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Re: Thoughts on Makita BO6040 or Bosch 1250DEVS??

I too would love to hear more about the Makita BO6040.
 
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I just bought and sent back the Bosch 1250DEVS. I was not impressed. Back to a UDM for me. Of the Bosch's 2 modes, on the polish mode it takes no pressure at all to stop the pad regardless of speed setting, on turbo mode it became awkward for me to work with. Just my opinoin.
Ruttrow, thanks ... that's good feedback. Based on a spec 6.5 amp motor (UDM 4.2 amp), I would have thought that the Bosch wouldn't have bogged down. What did you find awkward to handle? Was it the forced rotation part?
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I too would love to hear more about the Makita BO6040.
i've had mine forever but never got much of a chance to use it for car polishing (remodeled a house, got married, sold a house, bought a new house, all in the past six months). i've used it a few times so i can give you my impressions of it from that, but it's by no means an exhaustive review.

first, you can't use any of the backing plates that you would use for a pc without fashioning some sort of adapter. but the plate that comes with it seems sturdy enough. i've used a number of my lake county pads on it with no problems. the pads stick out far enough from the plate that i never felt nervous about it around curves.

the vibrations on it are pretty smooth. it's smoother to run it in forced rotation mode than in orbital mode. not sure why this is, but it definitely feels better. compared to a pc i'd say it has about 1/3rd of the vibes. i can definitely feel the vibrations of a pc after an hour or so. i'd say that it roughly breaks down and polishes out my menzerna ip nearly twice as fast as my pc. i can't see much of reason to ever really use it in just orbital mode unless i was really trying to finish something out gently. it's also quieter than a pc by a wide margin. it's not quiet overall, but pc's make my ears bleed.

there's a large ribbed grippy pad at the top front of the unit that i use to hold and maneuver it. i think it came with a side handle, but i've never been a fan of those since it seems to be too far outboard from the center of the pad. the overall construction of the unit is very sturdy. the cord seems like it will hold up well and the dials, buttons and switches all feel right. my only complaint is that sometimes it's hard to turn it off since it has a slider switch for power.

in forced rotation mode, the polisher does tend to "walk" on you a bit until you get used to it. i'd suspect this is probably the case for all forced rotation orbitals since the pad's turning it acts like a wheel since nobody can hold a pad perfectly flat all the time. it's much less forceful than a rotary obviously, but if you're only used to pc's you'll find it odd-feeling.

it doesn't bog down in my experience. i've done some car polishing and also some sanding on stone floors, wood and drywall texture. in some of those situations i've leaned into it fairly hard and never felt it was straining with the pressure. so i've never had a concern with its power. it's certainly held up to more pressure than i would ever use on a car without ill effects.

that's about it. i do recall when i first bought it there was another poster on here who bought one and he used a few parts from a hardware store and a bit of machining to make an adapter for the edge pad system. if that's your preferred pad system, then it's worth searching for. i might still have it saved somewhere if you can't find it.

i'm generally a fan of makita products even though the rest of my power tools are dewalts. zoran claims to have read many failure issues with bo6040's but i've never seen them. to be fair, i've never looked that hard for it either, so i suppose it's possible. but i'm not going to worry about it. makita is a big brand and they likely have pretty good support. i'm intrigued by the flex, but to me, i'd rather have a machine that can also do actual sanding and is from a well-known (to me) brand.
 
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Ruttrow, thanks ... that's good feedback. Based on a spec 6.5 amp motor (UDM 4.2 amp), I would have thought that the Bosch wouldn't have bogged down. What did you find awkward to handle? Was it the forced rotation part?
Knowing very little about the forced rotation, I would say that was my problem. Like the previous post says it tends to walk on you. On the polish mode the one I had bogged down to vibrate only and no spin with less than 5# of pressure. Maybe it was faulty I'm not sure. After using a pc for many years I could not get used to it on " turbo " mode.
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Re: Thoughts on Makita BO6040 or Bosch 1250DEVS??

I think if you're polishing cars more then just occasionally you should seriously consider something like the BO6040 over a PC or UDM. It is much more powerful and has a longer throw. Even with the larger pads you have to use with a BO6040 you'll be able to correct more and finish finer then a PC can in less time to boot. With the BP that comes with the BO6040 both the 7'5" LC pads and the smaller 6.5" pads fit perfect.

To me the BO6040 vs. the PC is like a Makita rotary vs. a CE or no name brand rotary, more stout and better build quality. Just a better tool all around.
 
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Old 10-04-07, 01:58   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Thoughts on Makita BO6040 or Bosch 1250DEVS??

I, too, am interested in the Festool versus Makita versus Flex comparison/debate...
I've got the rotary and PC and even some other machines... I love that lil' Metabo SXE400!

My friend just got the Festool Rotex® RO 150 FEQ, and I was considering it, too, but I've been looking at the Makita BO6040. I just read all I could on the Flex XC3401VRG, too.

That Makita is looking pretty darn good, considering price, availability, & brand reputation! About $231.88 is the best I've seen for price. One SILLY question, though-

I was told, or I read somewhere, that the rotation of the Makita is backwards, or COUNTER-CLOCKWISE when looking at it in use... Yes? No? Why they'd design it like that, I could never guess!

Help is appreciated. Kevin Brown

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