Paint hardness and finish..

Reflectionz · 08-28-07, 07:58

I know first hand that nissans are a ***** to work on because of the hard paint. bmw, mercedez.. anything else? is there a list somewhere?

stiffdogg06 · 08-28-07, 09:48

I heard BMW red and black are soft.
Infiniti is soft
Honda/acura is soft
Heard toyota is soft

Gopher · 08-29-07, 09:05

What is really meant by hard/soft?

My understanding is that soft paint is easy mar, but also easy to correct (with hard being the opposite).

If my understanding is correct, I'm suprised by BMW's black being classified as soft. I worked on a black 740il last weekend and it was a b*tch and a half (still not happy with its looks). The weekend before that, however, I worked on our family's black 911 and it really was extremely smooth sailing...

themightytimmah · 08-29-07, 09:28

Sometimes you get paints that are the worst of both worlds... hard to knock stuff out but nigh impossible to finish down nicely. That said,

MB Cerami - x-hard
BMW - moderate
BMW jet black - x-soft
Honda - x-soft
Audi - hard
Toyota - m-hard

SpoiledMan · 08-29-07, 09:31

Extra soft on the Honda paint simply isn't true. Honda paint is not even near being in the same league as the BMW Stupid Soft™ paint.

richy · 08-29-07, 09:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

Extra soft on the Honda paint simply isn't true. Honda paint is not even near being in the same league as the BMW Stupid Soft™ paint.

Too funny!

Reflectionz · 08-29-07, 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by stiffdogg06

I heard BMW red and black are soft.
Infiniti is soft
Honda/acura is soft
Heard toyota is soft

i know hondas are soft and easy to work with... but infiniti? they dont use the same paint as nissan which is hard as hell?

Reflectionz · 08-29-07, 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by themightytimmah

Sometimes you get paints that are the worst of both worlds... hard to knock stuff out but nigh impossible to finish down nicely. That said,

MB Cerami - x-hard
BMW - moderate
BMW jet black - x-soft
Honda - x-soft
Audi - hard
Toyota - m-hard

which paint is hard to finish off nicely?

SpoiledMan · 08-29-07, 11:11

The problem with nailing down this kind of thing is that what's hard or soft in many cases will be subjective. For instance, I own 3 Honda products and they all have soft paint. I care for a few more and their paints are all harder than mine. Some will lump the BMW jet black in with Honda paint and it's just leagues apart. What's normal to me is going to be hard/soft to someone else.

My 2 pennies.....