Question for PC users that switched to Rotary? - Page 3

SpeedEuphoria · 09-26-07, 09:49

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Originally Posted by JDookie

Doesn't wool create more heat?

by looking at your post count I thought it was sarcasm, but never know. Wool runs considerable cooler while still cutting.

White lexus 23 · 09-27-07, 10:01

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Originally Posted by kapinnn

+1 on the rotary. I've been using it for a few months but what a difference! I would have picked one up much sooner if I knew how easy it is to use. If you are having trouble with flat pads skipping you might want to change to Edge Wave or LC CCS pads, they skip a bit less. That's the only issue I had with the rotary.

I only use my PC for LSPs and carpet cleaning.

make that +2. I have been using a rotary for about 5 months. I must say i like both my PC and Rotary but there are just some thigns that a PC cant do that a rotary can.

blue-sun · 09-28-07, 06:12

not sure what some of you guys are doing or how long it takes, but I can do a wash, clay, wash, dry, PC remove swirls, apply sealant, dress tires and clean exhaust, wipe off sealant, apply & buff out QD on a WRX Sedan in under 3 hrs. And that's not even "rushing it".

I can't see the Rotary taking alot of time off of that.

I have been able to do that to a WRX rushing it in 2.5 hrs or so, and with help of a friend or my wife, cut that down to just under 2 hrs.

I have the $30 Chicago Electric Rotarty and I just don't like it. Compared to my PC, it's bulky, heavy and harder to control (with a Meguiars Red Cutting Pad - same pad I've been using with my PC for 3+ yrs now with no similar issues) than my PC.

My $.02

Accumulator · 09-28-07, 07:56

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Originally Posted by MikeWinLDS

I'd like to see what people have to say about going straight to rotary from nothing...

Noting that I greatly prefer using the Cyclos compared to my rotaries...

I learned on a Milwaukee rotary/wool pad back in the '70s, the days of single stage. I was one of those dealership prep kids

but I did good work (if I do say so myself

), never messed anything up badly enough to need paint, and was the only guy that they let work on dark colors. But holograms aren't the same issue with ss that they are with b/c, and today I do my final polishing with the PC/Cyclo to make sure I finish up hologram-free.

IMO it's a matter of the individual operator. You gotta have a knowledge base to work from, and a certain mindset and degree of physical coordination. After not touching a rotary for ~20 years and having *never* used on on b/c, I took the Makita out of the box and used it on my beloved S8 without any problems, but that's me.

archer39 · 09-28-07, 02:32

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Originally Posted by blue-sun

not sure what some of you guys are doing or how long it takes, but I can do a wash, clay, wash, dry, PC remove swirls, apply sealant, dress tires and clean exhaust, wipe off sealant, apply & buff out QD on a WRX Sedan in under 3 hrs. And that's not even "rushing it".

I can't see the Rotary taking alot of time off of that.

I have been able to do that to a WRX rushing it in 2.5 hrs or so, and with help of a friend or my wife, cut that down to just under 2 hrs.

I have the $30 Chicago Electric Rotarty and I just don't like it. Compared to my PC, it's bulky, heavy and harder to control (with a Meguiars Red Cutting Pad - same pad I've been using with my PC for 3+ yrs now with no similar issues) than my PC.

My $.02

man i wish i could say the same, i must be doing something wrong. What you described would take me double the amount of time on a moderately swirled car.

imageautodetail · 09-28-07, 04:35

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Originally Posted by blue-sun

not sure what some of you guys are doing or how long it takes, but I can do a wash, clay, wash, dry, PC remove swirls, apply sealant, dress tires and clean exhaust, wipe off sealant, apply & buff out QD on a WRX Sedan in under 3 hrs. And that's not even "rushing it".

I can't see the Rotary taking alot of time off of that.

I have been able to do that to a WRX rushing it in 2.5 hrs or so, and with help of a friend or my wife, cut that down to just under 2 hrs.

I have the $30 Chicago Electric Rotarty and I just don't like it. Compared to my PC, it's bulky, heavy and harder to control (with a Meguiars Red Cutting Pad - same pad I've been using with my PC for 3+ yrs now with no similar issues) than my PC.

My $.02

On cars that dont need alot of correction(newer) I am right there with you, about an hour on prep,engine, wheeels and wash, I then do the interior and about 2 hours tops to complete the exterior when the inside is done.

Anything that needs correction I use my Makita or for light colored cars, it takes about 20-30 min to one step a silver avg condition 2002 or so vehicle with a rotary, dark cars i use my PC for quick polish or one steps.

The reason you may not like your rotary could be the brand, I hate dewalts and millwalkii
if you were to use a metabo or makita(lighter) you may have a different experience.

sabirk · 09-28-07, 10:14

I feel a little guilty because I have a metabo rotary (12-175) which I never use. All of my cars are honda's with soft paint so I'm able to get excellent correction with a PC and the finest of polishes.

I wanted to get a rotary after reading the posts here but I find the PC easier to use. All I seem to do with the rotary is create holograms so I figured why bother when the PC is doing its job. This is just my experience but for me the rotary was a waste.

Accumulator · 09-30-07, 10:43

sabirk- Don't feel bad, you may well find the Metabo handy some day. I hardly ever use mine either but I don't regret the purchase of it or the Makita- when I need them I have them.

And it sounds like your Honda is like my Mazda- sure no point in using a rotary if less aggressive machines do the job just fine.

z06meister · 09-30-07, 12:15

Rotary is the ONLY way to got for a serious detailer that needs to do any real paint correction. You may want to consider a Makita BO6040 or Festool 150RQ for the best of both worlds.

blue-sun · 10-01-07, 07:35

I think I may have to get a proper rotary soon.

I took the PC to my Protege. I did a mini-detail on it right when I first got it and got some/most of the swirls out. I did another detail on it last night, did the DACP x2 on the entire car and while most of the swirls came out, there are sections where the PC didn't faze the swirls. ugh!

Accumulator · 10-01-07, 10:49

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Originally Posted by blue-sun

I think I may have to get a proper rotary soon.

I took the PC to my Protege. I did a mini-detail on it right when I first got it and got some/most of the swirls out. I did another detail on it last night, did the DACP x2 on the entire car and while most of the swirls came out, there are sections where the PC didn't faze the swirls. ugh!

Noting that the protege and my MPV come from different places, I'll take a wild guess and say that "gee, they're both Mazdas" anyhow. Try a 4" pad with the PC, that's *always* enough for the MPV if I do numerous passes. I'd be just a little leery of taking the rotary to it, the clear is *VERY* thin.

It'll take more than two passes though, but then it probably would by rotary too, if only because you'd need to be sorta gentle with that paint.

blue-sun · 10-01-07, 12:36

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

Noting that the protege and my MPV come from different places, I'll take a wild guess and say that "gee, they're both Mazdas" anyhow. Try a 4" pad with the PC, that's *always* enough for the MPV if I do numerous passes. I'd be just a little leery of taking the rotary to it, the clear is *VERY* thin.

It'll take more than two passes though, but then it probably would by rotary too, if only because you'd need to be sorta gentle with that paint.

Don't get me wrong, the swirls come out, but not as easily and not as many came out.

Some did very easily, and some didn't. . .

The car has 115k on it already, I drive 100 miles daily, so I'm not too worried about it actually. The car's a trooper, that's for sure!