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Old 12-26-06, 10:59   #1 (permalink)
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trust and a rotary

Hey everybody. This past weekend my truck was broke into and when I take it to the body shop I was curious if I could trust a body shop with a rotary. My 01 GMC pewter has some swirling that my PC could not take out and I am not brave enough to use a rotary.

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Old 12-26-06, 11:08   #2 (permalink)
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Re: trust and a rotary

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Hey everybody. This past weekend my truck was broke into and when I take it to the body shop I was curious if I could trust a body shop with a rotary. My 01 GMC pewter has some swirling that my PC could not take out and I am not brave enough to use a rotary.

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I wouldn't, I am sure there are some body shops that can do a good job with a rotory but it would be hard if not imposable to find out (short of know the guy that will be doing the work)

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I am not brave enough to use a rotary.
I would say take the time to learn how to use the rotory. It is not as scarry as it is made to seem. Just use proper technique and products (I know that this is where the hard part is) but pick up a test panel at a body shop or a junk yard or find a friend with a car they dont care much about and give it a shot. If you follow it up with a PC you should be fine.
 
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Old 12-26-06, 11:09   #3 (permalink)
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Re: trust and a rotary

When you're talking to the body shop, just tell them what kind of results you want from the finish. Ask if they are the ones to do such work, or if they'd recommend having someone else handle it because it might be too much hassle for them or for whatever reason. Approach them with the consideration that many shops don't like to do such work because it's too time consuming or it slows down their more production oriented shop.

While the body shop employee running the rotary on fresh paint will usually be skilled with the machine, that person will not usually be the one polishing the rest of the vehicle.

Ask the body shop if they do this sort of thing, or if they have an outside cleanup/detail shop do it. If a body shop is affiliated with a dealership, the body shop often does the fresh paint detail, then sends the rest of the work to "cleanup". "Cleanup" can be the untrained, uncaring, unskilled person who will make more mess than you had in the beginning.
 
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Old 12-26-06, 02:16   #4 (permalink)
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thanks, time is really an issue here. between fire academy and work I barely have time to detail my truck anymore. If I had more time I would be out there tackling it myself
 
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Old 12-26-06, 07:37   #5 (permalink)
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yea it all depends on experience and the skill of the detailer. A local car wash here does detailing and i saw a finished car.... not only didnt they remove any swirls, they added buffing marks. So for $200 a customer got added swirls!!!!!
 
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Re: trust and a rotary

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Hey everybody. This past weekend my truck was broke into and when I take it to the body shop I was curious if I could trust a body shop with a rotary. My 01 GMC pewter has some swirling that my PC could not take out and I am not brave enough to use a rotary.

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A PC can take out any level of defects. It can level the paint right down to the primer. It is a lot slower than a rotary. I think the level of confusion comes from reading into what a few of the pros say. The PC cannot correct a badly swirled car... IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. For a pro, a PC is useless when their customer wants the car back the same day and it takes them 3 to get the swirls down. The one truth about PC vs Rotary is that the rotary may finish off some of the more abrasive products in one step, where with a PC you would have to hop around a few products.

Check this work with a PC:

http://autopia.org/forum/car-detaili...ntics-zpc.html

Take your time and do one section at a time. You'll get the results you want.
 
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Old 12-27-06, 07:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: trust and a rotary

I have not yet come accross any paint i couldnt correct with a PC.
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Old 12-28-06, 03:37   #8 (permalink)
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A PC is very capable. It just comes down to peronsal preference really. I've done a few cars with the PC and it was great. However, after a while the time it took to do one full detail, let alone the polishing alone was a getting to be to long.
 
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Old 12-31-06, 12:54   #9 (permalink)
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I suppose you could spend 3-4 days with a PC getting a badly swirled/scratched paint back looking good, but why? When I was in high school, back during the commie Carter administration - the only trade course we had was brick laying, yeah I took it so I could get a garage built at my house. The old teacher said this the first day, I'll never forget it - "anybody can lay brick, your momma can lay brick, BUT, what makes a bricklayer - is SPEED!" Same thing here, if it's your car and you want to spend hours on it, go for it. Me? I've got to git r done and move to the next car ASAP.
 
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Old 12-31-06, 01:01   #10 (permalink)
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where are you located? Maybe someone on here is nearby who could do the job right.
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