Orbital That Can Do What a Rotary Can

Mark Waldron · 05-04-06, 04:45

Here's the link:
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/DYN-61374.html

I use this on my Makita 9227 and I can get 95% of all paint defects out with a yellow Lake Country pad and a 1200-1500 grit compound. The thing I love is very little splatter and no swirls. I use this machine at the dealership on almost all cars and the results speak for themselves. I own a pc, Dewalt 443, and Cyclo and this current setup is the best by far. I do sometimes have to use the rotary, but very seldom.

MasterShineBoy · 05-04-06, 05:35

What size pads work best for this machine?

Scottwax · 05-04-06, 05:38

After doing another heavily swirled Audi, I might have to look into a rotary and the dynabrade system. I believe GM uses dynabrades in their Arlington plant.

eric77 · 05-04-06, 07:00

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Originally Posted by Scottwax

After doing another heavily swirled Audi, I might have to look into a rotary and the dynabrade system. I believe GM uses dynabrades in their Arlington plant.

Scott, I just worked on a new audi today and I am amazed you are able to complete a full swirl removal on them with just a pc. I tried to remove some light water spots etched into the clear on just haf the hood. A yellow cutting pad and optimum hyper compound on my pc was BARELY making a dent in it at all. I too may need a rotary soon.

wannafbody · 05-04-06, 07:06

that would be worth the price if you had a rotary and didn't already own a PC-providing it works well

MasterShineBoy · 05-04-06, 07:10

Every other post seems to be about gawddarn Audi clear and how hard it is! You guys make me feel so stupid for getting one, let alone a black one!

Scottwax · 05-04-06, 07:23

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Originally Posted by eric77

Scott, I just worked on a new audi today and I am amazed you are able to complete a full swirl removal on them with just a pc. I tried to remove some light water spots etched into the clear on just haf the hood. A yellow cutting pad and optimum hyper compound on my pc was BARELY making a dent in it at all. I too may need a rotary soon.

I complete a 90%, not full swirl free finish on Audis with moderate to severe swirling. The black A6 I did today not only had horrible halo swirls but rotary swirls too. Two odd things about that....

1. How can someone add rotary holograms yet not remove any halo swirls?
2. Why do the rotary holograms come out so much more easily than halo swirls?

Hyper and a yellow LC cutting pad was my 2nd step! Clearkote Compound with a burgany Meguiars cutting pad was first.

Scottwax · 05-04-06, 07:26

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Originally Posted by MasterShineBoy

Every other post seems to be about gawddarn Audi clear and how hard it is! You guys make me feel so stupid for getting one, let alone a black one!

Audi makes great cars but due to their rock hard paint, I'd never own one-well, maybe a silver S4 but it'd have to be brand new and unmolested by the dealer.

ecodetail · 05-04-06, 10:28

Your setup seems to mimick Festool Rotex 150. In rotex mode, this machine rotates in a rotary fashion and orbits at thesame time. In orbit mode it's by far more powerful than porter cable DA, you can work polishes in with the right pad and achieve results that rival true rotary polisher. Since I use makita about 5% of the time, i might consider dynabrade contraption.

Mark77 · 05-04-06, 10:38

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Originally Posted by MasterShineBoy

Every other post seems to be about gawddarn Audi clear and how hard it is! You guys make me feel so stupid for getting one, let alone a black one!

I had a silver A4 for about 4 years and maybe the paint was a little harder to correct, but it didn't swirl very easily either unlike some cars(Hondas come to my mind)

MorBid · 05-05-06, 07:26

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Originally Posted by MasterShineBoy

Every other post seems to be about gawddarn Audi clear and how hard it is! You guys make me feel so stupid for getting one, let alone a black one!

I have a Black A4 UltraSport and have found that it can be a bear to get the marr free, esp if you start out to light in Product/Pad range.

I have a routine now where I can get it done fairly quick by starting off with a medium cut pad/polish first then going to polishing with a light cut combo. I use my Rotary for paint correction and polishing. My PC sits in the bottom shelf of my tool box unless I'm scrubbing carpets.

Audi Factories in Germany (where mostly all if not all of the cars here come from) use Glasurit Paint (mostly likely Waterborne). Shops in the U.S. that do quality work on Audi's will use either that or Spies Hecker (another German Paint) as well.

I don't know what paint Honda uses on thier car's but when I look at other people's cars at work (so I know when they brought/leased it and about how many miles they have on it) they show less chipping and wash swirls.

I'm thinking the Engineers over at Audi Germany have no idea what the roads are like here in the U.S., esp in the winter.

I just professionally re-finished my Sill-Panel Covers (Rockers if you like) using Dupont Paint and Clear Coat. I'll be watching to see if there is any difference in how fast the chipping starts. Hopefully it won't so I can get some PPF on them.

On to the matter at hand though, has ne1 tried one of these thingies yet?

MasterShineBoy · 05-07-06, 09:49

What size pads does this contraption take?