What would you do with this car?

dsl1 · 03-27-06, 09:36

I have a 1997 Mustang that needs some work. I bought a PC the other day and need pads + products.

What would you use to get out problems such as these? I'm looking to spend ~100$ for pads and products.

Problems include:

Scratches like this that don't catch my nail.

Weird marks like this.

And swirls like this.

Thanks! Hopefully soon I will be

holland_patrick · 03-27-06, 09:44

ok well first off I would get edge 2000 pads.. they are double sided pads witha great PC adapter. 20 for the adapter and 2 pad(yellow/orange and a greee/blue pad) 40

ok that brings us to 40 for supplies..

I would get some opt polish/compound and wolfgang sealent.

that should do.. also get some good MF from any vendor..

ALSO WORK VERY SLOWLY...

dsl1 · 03-27-06, 10:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by holland_patrick

ok well first off I would get edge 2000 pads.. they are double sided pads witha great PC adapter. 20 for the adapter and 2 pad(yellow/orange and a greee/blue pad) 40

ok that brings us to 40 for supplies..

I would get some opt polish/compound and wolfgang sealent.

that should do.. also get some good MF from any vendor..

ALSO WORK VERY SLOWLY...

The Edge system seems good to me. Should I get the 6in pads? The green one and the blue one from autogeek?

I should move the PC slowly or keep the PC on a lower speed?

Thanks and sorry for my noobiness.

chpsk8 · 03-27-06, 10:47

Higher speed, slower movement.
Small pads are good for small areas where you can really focus the energy fo the PC on the defect. Larger pads are better for covering large spaces.... sorry, that was obvious wasnt' it?

Apply the product in a small spot on speed 3, then boost it to 5 6 to work out the defect. Move left and right, then up and down until the polish breaks down and goes opaque. There are some great threads recently showing how polish breaks down and what to look for.

All the defects you show should be fixable. That oddball scratch might be the toughest. The wierd circular one looks like bird poo, so that will be a bit of work also. It probably damaged the clear a little bit.

dsl1 · 03-27-06, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by chpsk8

Higher speed, slower movement.
Small pads are good for small areas where you can really focus the energy fo the PC on the defect. Larger pads are better for covering large spaces.... sorry, that was obvious wasnt' it?

Apply the product in a small spot on speed 3, then boost it to 5 6 to work out the defect. Move left and right, then up and down until the polish breaks down and goes opaque. There are some great threads recently showing how polish breaks down and what to look for.

All the defects you show should be fixable. That oddball scratch might be the toughest. The wierd circular one looks like bird poo, so that will be a bit of work also. It probably damaged the clear a little bit.

Great thanks.

What do you think of the pad selection. Should I get the Optimum Compound or Polish? I really like Optimums NRWS so I'm looking forward to using their other products.

hood rich · 03-27-06, 11:05

the weird marks in the second picture you won't be able to make go away... they're in the paint. i highly doubt you'll be able to get that scratch out with a DA.... but you never know. if you have access to a rotary I'd go with that to get the scratches out. i have awesome results when i use menzerna final polish II and menzerna FMJ for wax/sealant... always a beautiful end result.

dsl1 · 03-27-06, 01:23

For 60$ I could get the excel pads. 1 Gray 7in, 2 Blue 7in, 1 Green 7in, 6in backing plate, and then 1 of each of the 4in pads with a 3in plate.

Then I could either get products online or get Meguiars products from the store in town.

Does this seem good?

chpsk8 · 03-27-06, 05:17

I'd go with the P2 sampler kit from Excel Detail if you can. You're going to want an orange pad for sure. That pad will allow you to get out some of the more difficult defects. If anything, get the starter kit you talked about, then get the 4" sampler with the orange pad in it.

While you're there might as well get a bottle of Poor Boys SSR2, a bottle of Red Moose Glaze, and a tub of Nattys Blue. That should get you well on your way. If you can spring for it, adding a little more aggressive polish might be good. You can really never have too many dfifferent degrees of polish to cover all the possible combos.
Adjust your pads and polishes to meet the defect.

natebood · 03-27-06, 05:24

Just a heads up, but Patrick is currently out of several pads and the kits are "unavailable."

I plan on buying a kit as well, when they're available.

dsl1 · 03-27-06, 05:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by chpsk8

I'd go with the P2 sampler kit from Excel Detail if you can. You're going to want an orange pad for sure. That pad will allow you to get out some of the more difficult defects. If anything, get the starter kit you talked about, then get the 4" sampler with the orange pad in it.

While you're there might as well get a bottle of Poor Boys SSR2, a bottle of Red Moose Glaze, and a tub of Nattys Blue. That should get you well on your way. If you can spring for it, adding a little more aggressive polish might be good. You can really never have too many dfifferent degrees of polish to cover all the possible combos.
Adjust your pads and polishes to meet the defect.

Yeah I was planning on getting the 4" sampler + 1 Gray 7in, 2 Blue 7in, 1 Green 7in, and a 6in backing plate.

I saw that a few of the pads were out of stock. Shouldn't be to much of a problem as I am going out of town to Arizona for a few weeks anyway.

So in all I would get:

SSR2
SSR2.5
Natty Blue
Red Moose
4" Sampler with 1 of each color pad
1 Gray 7"
2" Blue 7"
1 Green 7"
6in Backing Plate"

121.03 + 16.99$ shipping

Shipping is expensive. Oh well

I already have

PC 7336
Optimum NRWS
Meguiars Quik Clay
Plenty of MF's
Meguiars Hot Rims Tire Shine
Meguiars Rim Cleaner

Thanks for all the help!

natebood · 03-27-06, 05:56

On a side note, not trying to hijack the thread, but I haven't heard much talk of Patrick's P2 pads. Anyone tried them? Do they perform better than the standard propels?

aaron33 · 03-28-06, 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsl1

So in all I would get:

SSR2
SSR2.5
Natty Blue
Red Moose
4" Sampler with 1 of each color pad
1 Gray 7"
2" Blue 7"
1 Green 7"
6in Backing Plate"

121.03 + 16.99$ shipping

Shipping is expensive. Oh well

I'd put in one each of 7" yellow and orange pads as well. You won't be repairing much with a green pad (for very minor spiderwebs) and the blue pad, I use only for glazes!

Shipping is not too bad. Hey, I paid over $20 for shipping when I made my order. I'm across the pacific ocean!