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Old 08-13-05, 04:32   #1 (permalink)
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More aggressive than Medallion

Hey all,

I've gotten good advise from this board before and hope my luck holds out. After reading here I finally got my PC (haven't used it yet). I also picked up some Medallion paint cleaner because it was easy to get.

I have searched through older threads and now my head is spinning.

I have some stripes in my clear coat from off roading, as well as some swirl marks. I have a feeling that Medallion won't be aggressive enough to get them out with a PC.

What would be a PC safe next aggressive polish? What could I expect if I used Zaino PC Fusion. I'm sorry that I have no pics, just haven't gotten the D-camera yet.

p.s. my fingernail doesn't catch on the stripes.


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Old 08-13-05, 04:37   #2 (permalink)
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As long as you already have the Medallion Paint Cleaner give it a try first and if that didn't work step up to #80. #83 is the most aggressive product Meguiar's recommends for the PC but it can leave hazing on some paint. Best practice is to work your way up the aggressiveness scale as needed. I do get great results with #80.
 
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I will try Medallion first, but was collecting info for future applications. Still wondering how good the Zaino PC Fusion is on swirls. Anyone tried yet?

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I thought Medallion Premium Paint Cleaner was a chemical cleaner, not an abrasive cleaner? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you would be hard-pressed (literally) to take out any swirls with Medallion. Try #80, it is an absolutely great product.
 
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Old 08-13-05, 06:20   #5 (permalink)
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Medallion was what I tried first when I bought my PC. I saw it on the CMA web site and decided to try it out. What a waste of money. It did nothing! It will not remove even the smallest swrils. Get a dedicated polish to remove the oxidation and swrils. Menzerna IP, #80, or some SSR to name a few.
 
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Old 08-13-05, 06:21   #6 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by williams22
I thought Medallion Premium Paint Cleaner was a chemical cleaner, not an abrasive cleaner? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you would be hard-pressed (literally) to take out any swirls with Medallion. Try #80, it is an absolutely great product.
MPPC contains diminishing abrasives.

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Medallion® Premium Paint Cleaner satisfies even the fiercest perfectionist’s standards for removing surface contaminants, scratches and oxidation. Use to prepare a blemished surface before applying Medallion Premium Paint Protection. Safe for every finish including clear coats.
Per Mike Philips of Meguiar's:
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...Just to clarify, all but one Meguiar’s product that I’m aware of utilizes diminishing abrasives. This enables Meguiar’s compounds, paint cleaners, cleaner/polishes and cleaner/waxes to clean the surface without scratching or scouring the finish. The importance of this fact cannot be overstated...
In my experience, and I've used MPPC for many years, I'd place it somewhere close to #82. I've removed many swirls with this product. I use it with a PC and a polishing pad.

That said I also prefer #80 as my go to cleaner/polish.
 
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Old 08-14-05, 03:00   #7 (permalink)
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Well I gave it a shot with the Medallion. It didn't really touch the swirl marks or clear coat stripes, but the rest of the paint looks great. I just tried it on the right front quarter and applied product 3 seperate times, but no luck.

I think I'll be picking up #83 tomorrow and hope that this little cool spell hangs around for a couple more days. Thanks to those that responded.

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