Does this tell you anything about my wax application technique?

[efnfast]

FOr wax I usually use pinnacle liquid soverign and white pads/cyclo

No problems - usually do 2 or 3passes, let it sit for a while, then buff off.

However, on soft black paints (my g35, dad's bentley), I run into an issue buffing it off - basically I'm left with random hazing all over the body panels. I can rub and rub and rub and nothing happens - the haze just moves around but never buffs off. If I rub it in a circle, I get marks left in a circle; if i rub it back and forth, i get haze marks that look back/forth (in terms of apperance). But whatever I do it never buffs off, I only end up spreading it and making the panel look worse and worse.

The only way I've found to remove it is to use a QD mixture of water and ONR(1-6 I believe is the dilution ratio I used). SO basically buff the wax off, then apply my QD mixture to a microfiber and buff the area, then do a final buff with my plus cobra jr microfiber. And then it looks perfect.

Does this mean anything to you guys - not letting wax dry long enough, too much/little wax, or just soft black being a pain in the *** and showing why it's such a pain.

[Setec Astronomy]

Sounds like too much product and/or not letting it "dry" enough.

[vtec92civic]

i have never had that issue myself and i use that wax as well but i have read about people having the same issue with other products. Are you applying the wax in direct sunlight, cold temperatures, high humidity . . . ? Conditions do effect how the way wax sets up . . . . sorry i know that doesn't help much but i'll search for that thread i read a while ago.

[efnfast]

Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy

Sounds like too much product and/or not letting it "dry" enough.

I usually use 2 drops (not dime sized, but droplet sized) per cyclo pad to do a whole panel. I've also let it set upwards of 2hrs, same result still. Very perplexing.

Originally Posted by vtec92civic

i have never had that issue myself and i use that wax as well but i have read about people having the same issue with other products. Are you applying the wax in direct sunlight, cold temperatures, high humidity . . . ? Conditions do effect how the way wax sets up . . . . sorry i know that doesn't help much but i'll search for that thread i read a while ago.

In the garage; moderate temps, uncertain about humidity. But like I said, only on soft black do I have this problem. On harder clears/colors, no problems at all.

[StadiumDetail]

Originally Posted by efnfast

I usually use 2 drops (not dime sized, but droplet sized) per cyclo pad to do a whole panel. I've also let it set upwards of 2hrs, same result still. Very perplexing.




In the garage; moderate temps, uncertain about humidity. But like I said, only on soft black do I have this problem. On harder clears/colors, no problems at all.

is it just those two cars or all soft black cars? have you tried other waxes or only the one?

If only those two and that wax, have you tried a dawn or decon wash to start over? My dad had this issue on his black MB CLS500, I dawned it and just started over with great results.

[efnfast]

Originally Posted by StadiumDetail

is it just those two cars or all soft black cars? have you tried other waxes or only the one?

If only those two and that wax, have you tried a dawn or decon wash to start over? My dad had this issue on his black MB CLS500, I dawned it and just started over with great results.

Just those cars; havn't worked on any other soft blacks. Pretty much any type of pure wax or semi-wax based product (e.g., optimum poli-seal)

Actually, now that you mention it, the only time when I don't get any haze is after I've polished the paint (i.e., polish, wax, no problems......however wash the car several times, then re-wax and I end up with the haze). Hmmmm.

[toyotaguy]

prepping the surface with IPA??? that might help