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Old 09-19-09, 01:19   #13 (permalink)
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Re: LC sucks, need recommendations

You are using way too much polish on a 4" pad if you are putting a quarter size drop on them each time. You should prime the pad with product!- then add 2 or 3 pea size drops to the pad to do the next 12x12 section. I use a few 4" pads and dont bother cleaning them or scraping, it makes them wet, and i dont trust just scraping off paint/product off the pad, but thats me.,

Cut down on the product, switch to a new pad, dont push down so hard possibly also.


I also really only need the 4" pads for hard to get to areas, or spots that need a little more pursuasion.
 
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Old 09-19-09, 02:05   #14 (permalink)
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Yes, the Chemical Guys and Adam's pads are indeed produced by Buff and Shine. Unfortunately Buff and Shine doesn't sell pads of this foam type and design to the public. Their foam types are very distinctive from those of Lake Country. I think I prefer the Lake Country pads over the Buff and Shine ones. I do, however, recommend the Adam's Polishes to those that do not want to have to figure out which pad is which among the many types of pads produced by LC.


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I know I'm new at polishing, but at this point I am convinced it's the pads and not me. Even with priming, giving them breaks, cleaning them with DP pad cleaner, they soften up which defeats the purpose of having orange pads. And then they lose control, where instead of spinning they freeze for a split second and then do something unpredictable. I'm pretty sure at this point it can't be my technique because it starts out ok, but then goes down hill.
So, I'm wondering if Chemical Guys has good pads. They seem to have a pretty big selection; it's smaller than LC but they have too many anyhow. I know some people like Meg's pads, but I don't like that brand in general.
Edit: I'm willing to consider anything, not just CG but they are the only other brand I know of.
Have you tried other different brands of pads in order to justify your claim? Seeing that you so eloquently express your distaste for a particular brand, I doubt you have tried out the next popular brand of pads. Therefore, I am fairly convinced that you are either not familiar with the nature of polishing pads or that you are not using your supplies correctly, or both. The fact of the matter is, you will probably face the same problem even if you switch to another brand of pads. Pads tend to soften up when they absorb the oil and liquid contained in compounds or polishes. Even more so, priming the pads soften them up even more.

Once in a while, I mess up my buffing process by simply using too much product and working them for too long with some compound, which creates excessive gumming and pad contamination. However, even with the gumming and contamination, the pads still work satisfactorily.

Sometimes depending on the clear coat hardness and compound used, cleaning on the fly may not sufficiently restore the pads' cutting power. It is almost crucial to have at least three pads for one car. Some people may be able to buff out an entire car with just one or two pads, but you never know if you will eventually need some extra pads in case you run out of pads.

Keep in mind that Lake Country is probably one of the leaders of polishing pads technology. If you find their pads not up to your standard, then I am afraid you will not be too satisfied with the other ones as well.
 
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Old 09-21-09, 10:13   #15 (permalink)
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Re: LC sucks, need recommendations

You've all made some good points. I guess I should keep using them if they really are one of the best brands.
 
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Old 09-22-09, 05:57   #16 (permalink)
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Re: LC sucks, need recommendations

The Meguiar's Solo 1 Cross-cut polishing pads are also self-centering and work exceptionally well. I clean my pads VERY often. I usually don't get more than a fender and half a door done before I'm cleaning my pad again.

I use APC and warm water, rinse VERY thoroughly and spin them dry at speed 6 on my new Griot's Polisher and I never have problems like you're expressing.

It's definitely an issue with technique and probably too much product. Do you also work in direct sunlight? Sounds like you're building up a lot of heat and too much product which will cause the product to heat the center of the pad causing it to slow or stop rotating, which is bad...it's even worse when you start to see smoke coming from the center of your pads and it's not your machine smoking. Trust me, I know first hand what too much product in direct sunlight will do. Anyway, it's not your pads, and they're supposed to soften up. It doesn't affect the cutting ability of the pads, so just work on using less product, clean more often and use less pressure. Remember, only use about 25lbs. of pressure. Use a bathroom scale to get an idea of how much 25lbs. of pressure feels like. It's not much.

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Old 09-22-09, 08:03   #17 (permalink)
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I'm always amazed at the small amount of polish you actually need to get optimum results. I was polishing quite a while before I realized I was using too much.
+1 - My polish is lasting longer, the cars are looking better and the polish is easier to remove!!
 
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Old 09-23-09, 01:42   #18 (permalink)
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The Megs yellow polishing pad is good general use polishing pad. The Sonus yellow cutting pad is easy to work with. The LC orange pads are a bit stiff but soften up after some usage.
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