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Old 09-22-09, 07:21   #13 (permalink)
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Re: PC Pad/Polish recommendation for Audi Red

I have a BMW 5 series, and I wish I knew how to use one of those things so I could work on it every once in a while. Where could I go and learn how to use a buffer safely?
 
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Old 09-23-09, 04:34   #14 (permalink)
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Re: PC Pad/Polish recommendation for Audi Red

I have an 05 Audi, and have used SIP+Orange with either a PC or Flex and pressure. I then followed up with 106 + White. You will be able to remove spiderwebs with this combo, but not much more in my opinion. Car looks great, super shiny, but there are pits and water spots that I need to make a more agressive pass at in the future.

Next spring, I'm going to take the M105 and M205 plunge and see what happens.

Either way, if I get the car in the condition I want, it won't stay that way for long... It's black... and because of that I'm not going to go super aggressive...
 
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Old 09-23-09, 08:09   #15 (permalink)
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Re: PC Pad/Polish recommendation for Audi Red

hmm... guess my long winded follow up post from yesterday never made it.

i'll try to sum up once again.

split the top trunk panel in two halves
each half was given 3 hits with SIP/Uber Orange 5.5 pad
1 hit= 3 slow/heavy pressure passes and 2-3 medium speed/moderate pressure passes
followed up with 106FA/blue pad, 2-3 passes medium speed/light pressure

good:
got rid of a majority of swirls under the 1000watt halogens
can't really judge a percentage of correction (i'm new at this)
been overcast and haven't been able to see it under direct sunlight

bad:
took over an hour to do just the one trunk panel
can't imagine having to do an entire cut at this rate

so so:
INSANE amount of dust
rinse didn't even get rid of all the dust and still have a few specks after rinse and wash.
specks look like they'll need to be rubbed out

future:
going to try out uber yellow 5.5pad with SIP
if that doesn't work will consider M105 (a new animal to learn IIRC)
goal is to try to cut work time in half ideally

related questions:
any way to reduce the dust or at least a good way to make sure all the dust gets removed?

all comments/suggestions welcome
 
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Old 09-23-09, 08:50   #16 (permalink)
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Re: PC Pad/Polish recommendation for Audi Red

toyotaguy-Hey, I like the way you slotted the SIP in between the M105 and M205, that sounds like a good idea I've been doing M205/orange instead, but you've got me thinking...

Jimenez66- If you have the proper mindset you can just read up (search for good info here at Autopia), buy a Flex and some pads/products, and go for it. In most cases there's no need for training, practice panels, etc. *if* you have the right mindset and do the right studying beforehand.

uberyk- Some sorta-random thoughts follow:

The dust sorta comes with the territory (with most products) but it doesn't really cause real *issues* with, say...M105 if you use it properly because you're wiping everything off, and doing so before the product is completely dry. Maybe spritz the area of operation (AO) with #34 or TOL's Prep Wash before buffing off the residue.

The work you did actually doesn't sound like all that much for correcting an Audi; spending a *LOT* more time than that isn't unusual at all.

I'd do much smaller areas at a time, certainly not half a panel (even on a smallish car). A smaller AO will help you get the dust/residue/etc. issues under better control.

I'd sure switch to M105 instead of just upping to a yellow pad. Trying to force a product to be more aggressive by switching from an orange to a yellow pad isn't likely to yield a good outcome IMO. I sure wouldn't want to try that on one of *my* Audis! If a product didn't work with orange I'd try PFW, but otherwise I'd up the product, *not* the pad.

IMO the learning curve to M105 is nice and steep, in part because there's no product breakdown to consider. Just work small areas and clean out the pad frequently so it doesn't get loaded with clumps of dried product.

You just need something more aggressive; M105, PowerGloss, something along those lines.
 
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Old 09-23-09, 10:36   #17 (permalink)
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Yeah, I just realized after looking over some detailing works posted here that an hour on a panel really isn't too bad. Especially since that was over an hour including all the prep work (washing, claying, taping etc)

I've seen the yellow pad used with SIP before which is why I was thinking of that route.
But I've decided on a different route; work on a slightly smaller area with 4inch orange pads.
I've been looking to pick some 4inch pads for the smaller areas anyway so this looks like a good opportunity to do so.

I'll probably hold off on the M105 as I'm just getting the hang of the Menzerna line.
I would like to test M105 on the girlfriend's car but she drives a Honda Civic.
The M105 would probably strip it down to bare metal in one pass.

One of these days I'll just have to take a day off from work and invade my friend's garage and work for hours straight.
 
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Old 09-23-09, 10:43   #18 (permalink)
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uberyk- Those 4" orange pads just might do the trick
 
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Accumulator - You've been a big help so I'll just lean on you for some more info

I'm trying to determine which 4inch orange pads to get.
There's the Uber line from DD
Lake Country from autogeek (and of those regular or low profile?)
Erasure from ExcelDetail

so far the erasure's are on top just because of pricing.

I've done a search but all the pad threads seem to be older and wanted to know if there were any updated thoughts.

hoping the 4inch orange/SIP/heavy pressure/Speed 6 cuts the work time a bit.
 
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Old 09-23-09, 11:17   #20 (permalink)
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uberyk- I'm afraid I won't be much help with this one as I'm still using the 4" orange pads I bought from CycloToolmakers (I think) a long time ago.

I prefer thicker ones over thinner, and FWIW I often find that speed 5 works better overall than 6 (with the 4" pads).
 
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Old 09-23-09, 12:43   #21 (permalink)
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I would recomend Menzerna SIP and Menzerna Nano. Used in conjunction with LC Orange and/or LC White and you should be pretty good to go. To take it to the next level throw in some Menzerna PO85rd and an LC Black and your ride will look stellar.
 
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