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Old 07-20-08, 12:02   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Which pads should I buy?

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Edge on PC is a joke IMO, rotary is a different story.

Go with 4" LC and save yourself headaches.

I burned through at least 4 adapters on PC. The edge pads barely spin on a PC.
Ahh, I didn't realize this was for a PC.
 
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Old 07-20-08, 12:27   #26 (permalink)
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That sounds perfect imo... I don't know if you need anything less abrasive on the PC than a white pad, but a LC black pad will work great for some finishing polishes, or Meg's 9006 pad... I'd recommend a 5.5" or 6.5" black LC pad or two for those rare times you'll need to finish down with it on a soft paint...
What are the differences between the gray, blue, and red pads?
 
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Old 07-20-08, 01:56   #27 (permalink)
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What are the differences between the gray, blue, and red pads?
Red is a bit finer than black but I rarely find use for even the black, with a rotary much less a PC.. I think blue and red are good/intended for waxing/sealing
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Old 07-20-08, 07:03   #28 (permalink)
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Re: Which pads should I buy?

So for waxing and sealing, which color and what size should I go with?
 
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Old 07-21-08, 10:49   #29 (permalink)
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Re: Which pads should I buy?

Bump for the last question. I think I need 5.5" but what color(s)?
 
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So for waxing and sealing, which color and what size should I go with?
I don't use pads for sealing/waxing but the one time I did I used the red pad from CMA with Klasse SG I think... you should just get 1-2 black or blue LC pads for that purpose... I'll let someone with more experience applying sealants/waxes with machine chime in
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Old 07-21-08, 11:20   #31 (permalink)
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So for waxing and sealing, which color and what size should I go with?
Once I start with 4" pads I used to stay with them through the whole process to keep from changing BP's and the fact I don't think it really takes that much longer with a 4" pad. For waxing or sealing you could use a 4" or a larger pad if you wanted to.

As far as colors, well either the black, blue, or red should work OK. Just a couple of years back the softest pad we had was the black/grey until they came out with the blue and red pads. Technically, according to LC, here is the breakdown of each pad:

Red: glazes, sealants, and liquid waxes.

Blue: waxes, sealants, and glazes

Gray: waxes, prewax cleaners, sealants, and glazes

http://www.auto-geek.net/lakecountrycomparisonchart.htm

So you see there is a lot of overlap there. I typically use a black/grey for waxes and sealants and a blue for pure glazes. For a cleaning glaze I might use a very light polish pad. I don't use a red just because I never got around to ordering one or really saw the need for it with all of the other pads I have around.
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Re: Which pads should I buy?

Good post, John.

I have SEVERAL 4" red pads, so the next time I stop by, I'll give you one to try out.


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Once I start with 4" pads I used to stay with them through the whole process to keep from changing BP's and the fact I don't think it really takes that much longer with a 4" pad. For waxing or sealing you could use a 4" or a larger pad if you wanted to.

As far as colors, well either the black, blue, or red should work OK. Just a couple of years back the softest pad we had was the black/grey until they came out with the blue and red pads. Technically, according to LC, here is the breakdown of each pad:

Red: glazes, sealants, and liquid waxes.

Blue: waxes, sealants, and glazes

Gray: waxes, prewax cleaners, sealants, and glazes

http://www.auto-geek.net/lakecountrycomparisonchart.htm

So you see there is a lot of overlap there. I typically use a black/grey for waxes and sealants and a blue for pure glazes. For a cleaning glaze I might use a very light polish pad. I don't use a red just because I never got around to ordering one or really saw the need for it with all of the other pads I have around.
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For white pads, would 2 be enough? I heard that they are the most frequently used. I also chose to go with 1 gray and 1 blue 5.5" pad. Sound good?
 
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Re: Which pads should I buy?

Why would glaze and wax suggest a different pad?
 
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For white pads, would 2 be enough? I heard that they are the most frequently used. I also chose to go with 1 gray and 1 blue 5.5" pad. Sound good?
Two white pads are OK but 4 would be better. The only reason I say that is it's a drag having to stop and clean (wash) pads before you can continue with polishing.

The grey and blue should be fine but you might want to try a red pad too while you're ordering.

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Why would glaze and wax suggest a different pad?
Most glazes (that come to my mind) are a liquid and could possibly benefit from a softer pad than what is used for a harder paste wax. Like I mentioned earlier, about two years ago the only finish pad we had was the black or grey and we seemed to do just fine. My standard pad for applying Z5 or Z2 is a grey 4" pad I've had for quite a while.

One possible benefit I can think of with the softer pads (red and blue) is that they might not disturb the existing layer of product as much as a pad that is not as soft. That's not enough for me to make a special order of red pads, but after I try the red pad Casey (EisenHulk) has I'll probably order 2 or 4 the next time I place an order.

Hey, not to complicate things further, but have you guys buying pads thought about the ones that Exceldetail sell:

6.5^^ Erasure Polishing Pads

5.5^^ Erasure Polishing Pads

4^^ Erasure Turbo Pads

I've always been pleased with the quality of the pads Patrick sold in the past and I'm sure the Erasure pads are also worth looking at.
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Hey, not to complicate things further, but have you guys buying pads thought about the ones that Exceldetail sell:

6.5^^ Erasure Polishing Pads

5.5^^ Erasure Polishing Pads

4^^ Erasure Turbo Pads

I've always been pleased with the quality of the pads Patrick sold in the past and I'm sure the Erasure pads are also worth looking at.
Who makes those erasure pads? I really like the rounded edges of those pads... I think holograms would be greatly reduced using the same rotary technique with those pads, as opposed to even some LC pads with only slightly rounded edges...
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