Does Meg's 105 Finish Buffer Trail Free with Foamed Wool??

David Fermani · 05-31-08, 07:02

I did a black C6 Vette today and used Meg's 105 with a purple foamed wool pad. After this step, I power washed it (major dust), and I couldn't help to notice major buffer trails/wheelmarks/holograms throughout the finish. Does anyone get a swirl free finish after the 105/PFW combo on dark colors?

Roishe Cheng · 05-31-08, 07:24

Well I am using M105 with wool pads (not foamed wool) and it does hologram which I expected. I didn't expect the large amount of dust though.

SuperBee364 · 05-31-08, 07:31

David, I'm still hit-and-miss with having 105 finish well. Sometimes it finishes so darn well it's amazing, other times I get major trails and holos. This is all with the PFW, btw.

It appears that doing a third pass before it flashes over really helps. Also making sure that you go over *exactly* the same area you went over on the first and second pass helps alot. If your second and/or third passes should overlap into an area that wasn't hit with the first pass, it really looks aweful; any area that only gets one pass really seems to look nasty.

Tricky stuff, that darn 105. I love it.

M95, OTOH, is just wonderful stuff if you don't mind taking the time to break it down all the way. The finish it leaves is beautiful.

David Fermani · 05-31-08, 08:21

SuperBee - What steps are you doing after going with the 105/PFW?

MotorCity · 05-31-08, 08:24

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Originally Posted by SuperBee364

David, I'm still hit-and-miss with having 105 finish well. .

+1.. as for what steps I take after.. Menz 85rd on finishing pad or UF SE on finishing pad

Dave1 · 06-01-08, 07:35

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Originally Posted by David Fermani

I did a black C6 Vette today and used Meg's 105 with a purple foamed wool pad. After this step, I power washed it (major dust), and I couldn't help to notice major buffer trails/wheelmarks/holograms throughout the finish. Does anyone get a swirl free finish after the 105/PFW combo on dark colors?

I haven't been able to......Not saying it can't be done though....

I have a black Acura and can't get the surface completely clear even using a white LC foam pad with 105. Looks great in the garage but, out in direct sunlight, still some faint trails visible. It's a two step for me, finishing them off with UF or 85RD and a black waffle.....

Brandon1 · 06-01-08, 07:55

I get holos with 105 and PFW on most cars. I finish down with PO106 on a white or finish pad and it's perfect. Quick too.

gmblack3a · 06-01-08, 07:56

In my dreams I can.

Remember this is a 1200 cut compound and you are using it with wool.

SuperBee364 · 06-01-08, 08:42

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Originally Posted by David Fermani

SuperBee - What steps are you doing after going with the 105/PFW?

For the nasty hologram/trail areas, UF on finishing wool. It's easier (for me, at least, since I'm a long time 106 user) to keep UF from slinging if I use it with the white finishing wool than foam. Plus the FW cuts/finishes as well or better than white LC foam.

bert31 · 06-01-08, 12:10

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Originally Posted by SuperBee364

David, I'm still hit-and-miss with having 105 finish well. Sometimes it finishes so darn well it's amazing, other times I get major trails and holos. This is all with the PFW, btw.

It appears that doing a third pass before it flashes over really helps. Also making sure that you go over *exactly* the same area you went over on the first and second pass helps alot. If your second and/or third passes should overlap into an area that wasn't hit with the first pass, it really looks aweful; any area that only gets one pass really seems to look nasty.

Tricky stuff, that darn 105. I love it.

M95, OTOH, is just wonderful stuff if you don't mind taking the time to break it down all the way. The finish it leaves is beautiful.

SB, would you agree that 105 is great for a professional detailer where time is money so it would be worth spending the time to learn how work it just right but for the hobbyist who is primarily doing his own car with a friend or family member thrown in, they should probably go with M95 since time is not so critical for them?

SuperBee364 · 06-01-08, 01:23

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Originally Posted by bert31

SB, would you agree that 105 is great for a professional detailer where time is money so it would be worth spending the time to learn how work it just right but for the hobbyist who is primarily doing his own car with a friend or family member thrown in, they should probably go with M95 since time is not so critical for them?

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Although M95 can be a timesaver, too. It finishes so darn well, that what used to be a three step polish (compound, medium polish, finishing polish) can be two stepped; m95 right to po85rd on finishing foam. M105 can do it, too, if you're lucky enough to be working on a clear coat that it'll finish down cleanly on. Even if it doesn't finish cleanly, following up with UF will knock out the trails/holos and leave an almost-jeweled finish.

The new Megs compounds and 3M's UF are gonna save *everyone* alot of time.

Accumulator · 06-02-08, 09:03

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Originally Posted by bert31

...[perhaps]..for the hobbyist who is primarily doing his own car with a friend or family member thrown in, they should probably go with M95 [instead of M105] since time is not so critical for them?

Note that some people simply prefer short work times while others like the breakdown/polishing process to take a while (with things happening more gradually).

I find myself utterly

when I use stuff like OCP because I simply don't like products to take that long to break down.