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Old 04-10-08, 01:51   #25 (permalink)
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Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads

metal, where did you make your purchase? Sounds like an awesome deal!
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metal, where did you make your purchase? Sounds like an awesome deal!
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Need to replace a few worn pads.
 
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Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads

Autogeek has them at that price, just go into Edge > 6" wool
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Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads

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I think I'm going to go with the LC 6.5" purple foamed wool for now using M105 and Ultrafina.

I'm currently having trouble with an '89 BMW 525i that seems to have ridiculously hard paint (I think it's SS paint). I even tried it with a yellow Propel (ver. 1) and PB's SSR3 (which I'm not really too fond of SSR's since I still haven't gotten the technique on these polishes).

I guess my lack of rotary experience factors into my results as well but I haven't had this large of an issue on other cars.
I worked on my '89 525i as well. The paint is unbelievably hard, but it seems to be just right when it is in a warm garage all night, but I blame my Menzerna for not woring well in the cold. I used a 4-stage Menzerna procedure with a simple old Megs wool pad for POS34A Powergloss, and various CCS pads for everything else.

Megs wool, POS34a PG - single pass to really break down the dusty powergloss over the previously heavily oxidized surface.

Orange CCS, PO91E IP - two strong passes to rid the paint of the holograms, worked well with the notoriously firm orange pad.

White CCS, PO85U FPI - Two or three soft passes with a good soft wipedown afterwards.

White CCS w/PC7424, PO87MC FPII - Two or three really intensive passes, but with the RO.

Turned out great, and one hell of a job!


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I would say to stick with the smaller pads, especially with the Metabo. The larger pads induce a lot more stress on the motor, and the Metabo is already known for overheating. The smaller pads should reduce that strain, and hopefully keep your operating temps a lot lower. Not to mention that I feel they are a lot easier to use anyway.
I also love smaller pads on my Metabo. Yet, because the cutting action of the pad is closer to the center, there is a little less cut achieved unless speed is upped just a hair in order to compensate for the lost 'leverage.' The Metabo is picky, but it has grown on me.


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The clear on my '87 e36 is *HARD*
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Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads

charlesaferg, great to hear your experience! I have yet another comparison to reference when I'm ready to attack the nasty Bimmer! I greatly appreciate your input.
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..There was no BMW "E36" in 87.
Doh!! Brain-pause...it's a '97 Can't remember if that was just a typo or a real, true moment of stupidity
 
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charlesaferg, great to hear your experience! I have yet another comparison to reference when I'm ready to attack the nasty Bimmer! I greatly appreciate your input.
No problem! It has hard, hard paint - I don't know what it is. I do know that I had some serious oxidation going on in the center of the hood and the roof, and the rest of those areas around the oxidation were really hard - after I cut it it softened up a bit, but not much. Like I said, it really helps to be a tad bit warmer than usual when working with it.

For reference, I have "lachsilber metallic".
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Doh!! Brain-pause...it's a '97 Can't remember if that was just a typo or a real, true moment of stupidity
Naw, I figured that was the case, I probably should have said something. :P
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That's the same exact color that I have at my house, hehe.
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I would say to stick with the smaller pads, especially with the Metabo. The larger pads induce a lot more stress on the motor, and the Metabo is already known for overheating. The smaller pads should reduce that strain, and hopefully keep your operating temps a lot lower. Not to mention that I feel they are a lot easier to use anyway.

I think I have polished 40-50 cars in the last year with my metabo and 8" edge wool. The metabo will handle that fine, its some foam pads and softer clears that will put the metabo into thermal shutdown.
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Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads

Hey, while I'm remembering what car I have I have a Q:

There are plenty of areas on my e36 where an 8" pad simply seems too big. I'm betting that if I angle the 8" wool pads (which I now have, thanks to JuneBug ) I'll have holograms galore...so I need the smaller pads huh?

This is the car I'm simply rotarying to death trying to correct...my painter's gonna redo it when the mechanical stuff is done, but I'm still gonna play around with it some more. Gotta get it at least a *little* better before I take it to the shop; it *is* one of *my* vehicles after all, can't let it look too bad!
 
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Hey, while I'm remembering what car I have I have a Q:

There are plenty of areas on my e36 where an 8" pad simply seems too big. I'm betting that if I angle the 8" wool pads (which I now have, thanks to JuneBug ) I'll have holograms galore...so I need the smaller pads huh?

This is the car I'm simply rotarying to death trying to correct...my painter's gonna redo it when the mechanical stuff is done, but I'm still gonna play around with it some more. Gotta get it at least a *little* better before I take it to the shop; it *is* one of *my* vehicles after all, can't let it look too bad!
That was what I was under the assumption with the smaller pads Accumulator. Hence that's why I opted for the 6" Edge pads instead. Plus, I'm less likely to burn my paint, hehe.
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That was what I was under the assumption with the smaller pads Accumulator. Hence that's why I opted for the 6" Edge pads instead. Plus, I'm less likely to burn my paint, hehe.
Yeah, I use 4" foam pads so often with the rotaries that I wish they made little *wool* ones in that size! I oughta just buy the 6" ones....
 
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