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04-07-08, 01:19
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bert31 is offline
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 1,043 | Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads Quote:
Originally Posted by Denzil Yeah, I'm guessing that the LC purple foamed wool and M105 MAY cut it but that's just from my educated guess. I feel quite certain, although I don't know for sure due to another educated guess, that an Edge black/yellow/green and M105 SHOULD correct it, right?  | If Edge Black with M105 does not, that is some insanely hard clear (or paint if single stage). If Edge Black adn M105 does not work, I guess you would have to resort to wet sanding with an orbital. | |
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04-07-08, 03:32
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| | "Zamboni for Paint"
Greg Nichols is offline
Join Date: May 2006 Location: Logan Utah Posts: 699 | Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads A purple wool does not have the same cut as a standard white wool from 3M. IIRC the purple is more cut than a orange, but less than a yellow LC.
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04-07-08, 05:55
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| | From Hobby to Obsession
Denzil is offline
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose / Hollister, CA Posts: 1,620 | Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads Ah, thanks for the clarification Greg. That gives me a good idea of what I'll be purchasing later today, hehe.
I'm afraid I just might have to purchase some wet sandpaper... I'm thinking maybe 1500-3000 grit. I don't see myself using wet sandpaper too often (I hope) so I think I'll just pick some up from OTC.
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04-07-08, 07:13
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SuperBee364 is offline
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 2,773 | Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads Quote:
Originally Posted by bert31 The Edge White Wool Pad only comes in 8 inch correct? | I don't know why they don't have the six inch white wool pad available on their web site. You can order it from AG if you call them on the phone...that's how I got mine. The white Edge wool is a finishing wool, though, not cutting. | |
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04-08-08, 05:55
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bert31 is offline
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 1,043 | Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperBee364 I don't know why they don't have the six inch white wool pad available on their web site. | Weird. I just assumed Edge didn't make a 6 inch white since no one has it listed on their website. Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperBee364 You can order it from AG if you call them on the phone...that's how I got mine. | Thanks. Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperBee364 The white Edge wool is a finishing wool, though, not cutting. | I remember you saying that. | |
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04-08-08, 09:00
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Denzil is offline
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose / Hollister, CA Posts: 1,620 | Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads So yeah, I ended up making my purchase through Pinnaclewax.com and made sure I applied the Autopia discount, hehe.
I definitely can't wait to go to town on the Bimmer. 
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04-08-08, 09:57
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Accumulator is offline
Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 20,380 | Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads Denzil- That looks like a great shopping list
Oh, and if you're gonna get the paper... there's a *HUGE* difference in aggressiveness between 1500 and 3K, and I sure wouldn't use anything harsher than ~2500 without an ETG. And I strongly encourage you to get *good* paper, the old 3M 2K I had was really bad when it came to leaving random "tracers" (occasional too-deep scratches) but the Meguiar's/Nikken and Mirka stuff has *never* done that. | |
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04-08-08, 02:19
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| | From Hobby to Obsession
Denzil is offline
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose / Hollister, CA Posts: 1,620 | Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads Hehe, yeah I can't wait for them to arrive at my door! Also thanks for the tips Accumulator. I'll probably stick with sandpaper between 2000-3000 grit then. I'm glad you answered my question (before I could ask it) about what particular brand to stick with as I had no idea what to look for.
Anyone else care to share their experiences with wet sandpapers?
Also, ETGs are a whole new ballpark for me... educationally and financially, LoL. What ETG do you use by the way Accumulator, or anyone else for that matter?
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04-08-08, 02:38
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| | 0 to 60 in one paycheck!
SuperBee364 is offline
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 2,773 | Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads Quote:
Originally Posted by Denzil Hehe, yeah I can't wait for them to arrive at my door! Also thanks for the tips Accumulator. I'll probably stick with sandpaper between 2000-3000 grit then. I'm glad you answered my question (before I could ask it) about what particular brand to stick with as I had no idea what to look for.
Anyone else care to share their experiences with wet sandpapers?
Also, ETGs are a whole new ballpark for me... educationally and financially, LoL. What ETG do you use by the way Accumulator, or anyone else for that matter? | Great thread on them here... http://autopia.org/forum/detailing-p...ss-gauges.html
One other thing to think about with wetsanding... Some of this is taken from the thread above, but anyway... Remember that most knowledgeable people say you can only remove .03 to .05 mils of clear over the lifetime of the clear coat. If you have some RIDS that need to be wetsanded in order to get rid of them, you might be pressing those numbers by wetsanding, then compounding, then polishing. Then if you ever need to compound/polish that area again.. yeesh. I have a brand new car that has six long straight scratches that run the entire length of the hood, and several on the roof and trunk, too. I could remove them easily with a wetsanding, but i'm not going to do it; it gets me too close to the max clear removal and the car is still brand new. I've polished it well enough so that you have to catch a good light source to see them, but they won't be removed by me, ever.
Edit: As TH0001 (Todd  ) has recently shown, wetsanding is probably the most clear coat-saving way of removing deep scratches as compared to just compounding the heck out of it, but you are still removing a substantial layer of clear. Just something to think about. | |
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04-09-08, 10:28
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| | Practical Perfectionist
Accumulator is offline
Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 20,380 | Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads Denzil- It might be on that linked thread...I have a PhaseII with the probe on a cable, but I haven't done much with it yet. This is a case of closing the barn door after the horse already left as I over-thinned the clear on my M3 trying to rotary away 75K miles of somebody else's daily use.
Yeah, they're a bit pricey, but less than a little paintwork
SuperBee364- Those scratches must be kinda irritating, but  for not getting all aggressive with 'em.
Just last weekend I had to settle for ~90% removal of a 9" scratch on the Denali XL...somebody brushed against its L quarter *hard*. After all the correction it's already had, I simply can't/won't risk complete removal.
Oh, and I can't help but think of one very important specific about TH0001's experience...*HIS SKILL LEVEL* If somebody has to [mess] around a bit more, say, refining the finish from the rotary work, the results could turn out very different IMO. | |
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04-09-08, 12:13
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| | From Hobby to Obsession
Denzil is offline
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose / Hollister, CA Posts: 1,620 | Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads Quote:
Originally Posted by Accumulator Yeah, they're a bit pricey, but less than a little paintwork  | Heh, for some reason I never thought of it that way!
Oh and apparently the Phase II now goes for $495! Aww man, now I have 2 large future purchases to save up for: an extractor AND an ETG.
The purchasing spree truly never ends here... 
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04-10-08, 12:52
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metal is offline
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 463 | Re: 6" vs. 8" Edge wool pads I just ordered the edge adapter, and two 6" black, yellow and green pads last week, I have to go pick em up at the post office tomorrow! Really good deal for em though, I got two of each one because one was $17.99, and the additional one only cost $3 more!
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