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U Bring It - I Bling It
David Fermani is offline
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Please watch this video of sanding/buffing!!!!
Here's what this well respected member from the autobody101 forum does to finish cars:
800 grit dry by hand
1200 grit via DA
3M Super Duty compound with grey foam pad
Zymol liquid (Turtle Wax)
DONE!!!!????
Can you name all the things he did wrong??
What him go at it and just
The Video you have been waiting for!
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03-22-08, 07:00
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Re: Please watch this video of sanding/buffing!!!!
I knew what was next since I heard "Nibs"
a disaster is not enough.
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03-22-08, 07:10
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Re: Please watch this video of sanding/buffing!!!!
David, that is just too much. Sad thing is that 90% give or take body shops all do the same things and learn from one another.
I'll let someone else answer the mistakes. I do not want to spoil the learning.
Thanks for the laugh!
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03-22-08, 07:12
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U Bring It - I Bling It
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Re: Please watch this video of sanding/buffing!!!!
Try browsing the forum and read this guy's other posts - especially in the Color Sanding, Buffing, Polishing sections. Makes the noobiest Autopian look like a seasoned Pro.
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03-22-08, 07:15
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Re: Please watch this video of sanding/buffing!!!!
"Zimoil or whatever you call it..."
Love it. That video just bumped my confidence in trying out the rotary by about 60%.
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03-22-08, 07:17
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King of Gloss!
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Re: Please watch this video of sanding/buffing!!!!
That man sure does love his super duty. I can hear the passion for the product in his voice.
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03-22-08, 07:30
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Re: Please watch this video of sanding/buffing!!!!
Here's some more of his quotes in a discussion on clear coat scratches:
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All you need is 1200 or 1500 from 3M,,,,,that's it! You don't need all of those 2000-3000 grits. Your waisting time and money.
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I have done it both ways. I find that for me it is MUCH easier to buff after I go over it with the 3000 on the da wet. I have buffed right after doing the 1500 dry but I have I think it takes me less time to quickly go over it with the 3000 and then spend less time buffing.
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Sounds like you need to change your compound then..................
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Quit sanding so much and change something with your buffing, or the compound you are using.
A good compound should not have a problem with 1500 sand scratch...............Let the compound do the work.
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03-22-08, 07:32
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Re: Please watch this video of sanding/buffing!!!!
Is it me or between the sanding and polishing did he just grind way massive amounts of clear?
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03-22-08, 07:35
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Re: Please watch this video of sanding/buffing!!!!
David your killing me.
I knew just by watching the video. He is old school and you can not teach old dogs new tricks. He seems like is afraid of change also. He is also the type," If it is not broken do not fix it".
Sad part is that there are much worst out there.
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03-22-08, 08:08
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Re: Please watch this video of sanding/buffing!!!!
I suppose if he put enough clear on the car, his process is fine, other than the fact that he didn't move the buffer off the same spot for about 30 seconds at what seemed to sound like 3000 RPM. lol
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03-22-08, 08:11
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Re: Please watch this video of sanding/buffing!!!!
That was nasty. Why was he sanding?
The finish looked no better after
Now maybe with thick orange peel in the clear you would do some sanding but geez 800 then 1200. bloody hell
The whole trouble is that body shops are all for get it done quick and get it out the door whilst pro detailers and us extremists care about paint thickness, have far higher technology products and techniques and don't care how long it takes and want to achieve higher and higher perfection
Whats the difference between using 1200 grit sand paper and 1200 grit compound in removing deep scratches?
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03-22-08, 08:23
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Re: Please watch this video of sanding/buffing!!!!
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Whats the difference between using 1200 grit sand paper and 1200 grit compound in removing deep scratches?
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Huge. 1200 grit sand paper creates 1200 grit scratches, 1200 grit compound removes them. There is no comparison in cut.
Think FPII (2000 grit leveler) vs 2000 grit paper.
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