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12-28-05, 07:35 #1
Scared to use a Rotary...
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I am thinkinf of going out and buying a rotary to apply Zaino's ZPC Fusion.
I've done some searches, and many say that you need a Rotary buffer for results because applying it by hand wont cut it.
Then when reading the directions for ZPC, it says
# For MACHINE use: Can be used by random orbital or (for experienced users) rotary. Select a moderate speed (RO - 4.5; Rotary - 1200rpm) and an appropriate cutting or polishing pad. Apply Zaino Z-PC Fusion to the buffer pad in a "star" pattern. Start machine slowly to reduce sling. Work a small (2' x 2') area with moderate pressure until satisfied with results.
Will an orbital provide any results?
If it is recommended I use a rotary, would this model cut it?
All the rest are $199+, which I will not spend.
If an orbital will get any results work, I kind of like this one.
I really do not want to ruin my paint in any way, so if the consensus is dont try it yet, I wont. I can tell you, the sticky in this section freaked me out some against trying it.
To make things a bit more complicating, I do have black paint. I use the full line of Zaino as well.
Here are a few shots of my SS.
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12-28-05, 07:58 #2
z-pc is fine with a dual action orbital polisher
a rotary I would recommend if you are going to be removing a lot of swirls, scratches on a regular basis. z-pc won't remove any medium to difficult swirls. Also, if you go the route of a rotary, you must get the proper pads along with much better compounds such as optimum , mezerna and meguiar's to use.
just my $.02Thanks,
12-28-05, 08:01 #3
You already have an excellent look going for you, first off. Looks nice!!
Having said that I would not purchase either of those to use with the ZPC Fusion.
If were me, I would get the Porter Cable Dual Action Polisher at Lowe's or one of the vendor's on this site. Along with the approprriate pads and velcro backing plate. Terrific results can be obtained by using this machine. It also give you a little learning curve that one does not get when using a rotary. If you take your time with the proper products the results will knock your socks off.
I also have a rotary from Harbor Frieght that does do the job. It is underpowered but that is not bad in the case of a newbie using a rotary for the first time. It is also cheap...under $35.00 shipped. No matter where you get the epuipment you will need a velcro backing plate and pads. I recommend a light cutting pad, a polishing pad, and a finishing pad to get you started. If you get the bug as I have you will purchase all kinds of different pads from several different companies. Meg's make good pads, Lake Counrty makes good pads and so does PRopel just to name a few.
When picking out the way that you want your vehicle to look it is alwyas advantageous to just go slow. Do a small section at a time using the least aggressive approach to get the job done. In your case with ZPC one would start out with a polishing pad first. you can alwyas go to a more aggressive type pad if you do not get the required results.
Any powered equipment needs to be respected but neither the PC or the rotary needs to be feared.cwcad
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12-28-05, 08:36 #4
Thump- Nice B-body. We have a few SS/9C1 enthusiasts here (myself included), so welcome aboard.
Echoing what the others have said, with mild products like the ZPC you don't need the power of a rotary. I reserve that machine for more serious correction with more aggressive products (which, judging by the pics, you don't need). It's often necessary to follow up rotary work with something like the PC anyhow, so I'd certainly get the PC first and then a rotary if you find you really need it (pretty big "if" IMO). If you want something with more power than the PC, do a search on Cyclo, a polisher that I generally prefer over the PC. I hardly ever use my rotary, but I use the Cyclos ,and to a lesser extent the PCs, all the time.
The Cyclo (and maybe even the PC) will cost more than you want to spend, but, heh heh, consider how much you spent on some other aspects of the car Seriously, get the PC or the Cyclo (maybe a used one) or don't buy anything. The time savings alone will make it worth the expense, no foolin'-you really can't imagine how well those machines are worth their cost until you use one.The most interesting man in all of Autopia Land. (<--I didn't enter that!)
12-28-05, 11:22 #5
ZPC, like all polishes, does work best with a rotary in experienced hands.
With that stated a PC will be suffice if surface doesn't have any major (deep) blemishes.
Start with a PC to become comfortable using a machine on your vehicle's paint and graduate up to a rotary as you become comfortable and realize a PC limitations.
There will be no duplicity in purchasing both. A PC and rotary will always be of use during your detailing experiences.04 Millennium Yellow Z06 (Zaino'd)
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