Refreshing or Stupid? Political Question

Slickery · 02-14-07, 11:20

Anyone think that Barack Obama's confession about illegal drug use is refreshing? I personally appluad the man

, but perhaps he sank his presidential ship by doing so. What's your opinion on this?

Grouse · 02-14-07, 11:46

while not my political affiliation, Obama is a very effective comunicator. Probably the best we have had in 20 years since reagan.

from a political stand point i hope his ship sinks. I doubt it though.

Personally i want to see Rice/Giuliani run as a ticket.

Sherman8r44 · 02-14-07, 01:28

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Originally Posted by Grouse

while not my political affiliation, Obama is a very effective comunicator. Probably the best we have had in 20 years since reagan.

Totally agreed, but the question was about his admitted past drug use...

I don't think it'll sink his ship--it'll provide some ammo for his opponents, but if that's the worst of his past it won't really sway the public. I don't consider it all that refreshing either...more it's just getting his past out there so he doesn't get flamed for it.

LastDetail · 02-14-07, 03:19

I think that society at large is a bit more tolerant of recreational drug use than it has been in elections past, Clinton with his marijuana and Bush with his cocaine. I don't think it is the turning point in a campaign anymore.

Scottwax · 02-14-07, 03:51

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Originally Posted by Grouse

Personally i want to see Rice/Giuliani run as a ticket.

Same here, either order.

If someone has used drugs in the past but no longer does and hasn't for a long time, it isn't an issue with me.

Setec Astronomy · 02-14-07, 07:24

Did it sink his ship? One simplistic, perhaps, way to look at it is that the last two elections have been very close, and historically, presidential elections are within a few percentage points. Again, if you don't get into voter turnouts, etc, and just take the simplistic view of about half the electorate from each party, that means a few percentage points that voted for W. last time would have to vote Democratic this time, without losing any, for the Dems to win. How many people that voted for W. last time are going to vote for Obama or Hillary? The Dems seem to put up candidates that THEY like, without thinking about that they have to sway the opposition vote.

paul34 · 02-14-07, 07:33

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Originally Posted by Scottwax

If someone has used drugs in the past but no longer does and hasn't for a long time, it isn't an issue with me.

yup, its not a question of if, but just whether they're big enough to own up to it. Obama is, I applaud him for that.

Do I hope he wins? I'm not sure. I honestly don't think he has the experience necessary, but then again, who am I to say that.

All I know is that there doesn't seem to be a candidate who really remembers what America is supposed to be about. "Democracy/Republic" my arse.

Danase · 02-15-07, 05:18

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Originally Posted by Scottwax

Same here, either order.

If someone has used drugs in the past but no longer does and hasn't for a long time, it isn't an issue with me.

I have always been a fan of Rudy Giuliani and would love to see him run.

As for drug use, I am totally against it but the past is past.

I also feel it is WAY to early to make any sort of conclusion on who I would vote for or even lean towards right now.

Danase · 02-15-07, 07:25

Giuliani to run in 2008 - Yahoo! News
Rudy will run he says!

Grouse · 02-15-07, 07:35

Now pair Dr. Rice and Mayor Giuliani together. That would make an excelent platform. I was sold on DR Rice when she spoke infront of the 9-11 commission. She will be an excelent canadidate, along with a powerful speaker.

Joshua312 · 02-15-07, 07:53

Go Barack!! I think the real battle he is having right now are news casters and newspapers mis-printing his name as Osama!.

I think Barack will be the candidate of choice for many young people, and we will see an increased voting turnout for people under 25. Just my .02 of course

Sherman8r44 · 02-15-07, 10:13

I love Guliani too (hey, I'm a New Yawka) but he's too liberal to win the primary. Red states hate him.

As for Obama, I think Josh is on the money. He's a very likeable and charismatic person, and we young people love his liberal views. However, as Paul pointed out--the man only has 2 years of experience in politics! Is he really ready for the Presidency yet?