Why Does This Have to Happen

EdLancer · 09-15-06, 10:25

. . . in my city like three times in 16 years ?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/dawson-college/

http://www.cbc.ca/photogallery/_cana...gallery_62.xml

We made CNN again
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americ...ing/index.html

Montreal is one the safest and nicest city in North America and once in a while s**t like this happens !

Its just so sad to see teens killed and hurt and their lives taken away just after a new school year just started. A 18 year old girl was killed and 3 students are in critical condition with gun wounds to the head and 19 other injured.

I'am a graduate of this institution - class of '86, so it now hurts even more !

Scottwax · 09-15-06, 11:32

Why? Because some people are just nutbars I guess.

pwrstrk02 · 09-16-06, 05:54

this realy erks me. they arent nut jobs at all. these are kids who have (most of them) been bullied by some spoiled brat that the shooter has absoluty no power over. then it becomes "cool" for others to do it. after a while the shooter feels "cornerd" and what else to do if you are being attacked by a "what feels like" a mob but fight back in a way that you have more power. of course they are going at it in the wrong way but i must say i dont feel sorry for the dead or their parents (for the didnt teach their kids any respect of others), i for one was the one who beat the sh#t out of the bullys who picked on litteler kids. this just pi%&*s me off that people dont understand this and think that bullying is just part of life. well get a life and have a little more respect for others. and then you see it on tv when they are interviewing other kids and they smile and say " yea he got picked on" years after the incedent and then start crying for the dead. any way thats my strong oppinion so shoot me down if you must.

Accumulator · 09-16-06, 10:12

I read some stuff in the paper about the perpetrator's ramblings...he was one immature, irrational jerk who should've been doing something to get his head on straight, not posting to "vampire" websites and wallowing in junior-high level fantasies about all the stuff he hated for no specific/rational reason. The people who are saying he was an OK guy must be neck-deep in denial and his parents sure botched up raising him.

pwrstrk02- I agree with you (probably not the most popular position on this stuff, huh?) about the bullying. I too think that society's acceptance of bullying/etc. has a lot to do with much of the "so surprising"

violence that erupts "out of nowhere". Don't torture these kids, don't rob them of hope and aspiration, and they won't go on their rampages.

This one doesn't appear to be that sort of thing...this guy was a 25-year-old who spent his time on "internet role-playing games" and other such loser-magnet stuff like the aforementioned "vampire"-centric boards.

Scottwax · 09-16-06, 05:56

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Originally Posted by pwrstrk02

this realy erks me. they arent nut jobs at all. these are kids who have (most of them) been bullied by some spoiled brat that the shooter has absoluty no power over. then it becomes "cool" for others to do it. after a while the shooter feels "cornerd" and what else to do if you are being attacked by a "what feels like" a mob but fight back in a way that you have more power. of course they are going at it in the wrong way but i must say i dont feel sorry for the dead or their parents (for the didnt teach their kids any respect of others), i for one was the one who beat the sh#t out of the bullys who picked on litteler kids. this just pi%&*s me off that people dont understand this and think that bullying is just part of life. well get a life and have a little more respect for others. and then you see it on tv when they are interviewing other kids and they smile and say " yea he got picked on" years after the incedent and then start crying for the dead. any way thats my strong oppinion so shoot me down if you must.

All true but 99.999% of the people who get bullied don't go off the deep end.

TH0001 · 09-16-06, 06:10

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Originally Posted by pwrstrk02

this realy erks me. they arent nut jobs at all. these are kids who have (most of them) been bullied by some spoiled brat that the shooter has absoluty no power over. then it becomes "cool" for others to do it. after a while the shooter feels "cornerd" and what else to do if you are being attacked by a "what feels like" a mob but fight back in a way that you have more power. of course they are going at it in the wrong way but i must say i dont feel sorry for the dead or their parents (for the didnt teach their kids any respect of others), i for one was the one who beat the sh#t out of the bullys who picked on litteler kids. this just pi%&*s me off that people dont understand this and think that bullying is just part of life. well get a life and have a little more respect for others. and then you see it on tv when they are interviewing other kids and they smile and say " yea he got picked on" years after the incedent and then start crying for the dead. any way thats my strong oppinion so shoot me down if you must.

you might be the stupidest person on here. Seriously, your defending this nutjob because some people picked on him? You said that YOU don't feel sorry for the dead (probably who where innocent, unless your saying that the ENTIRE school bullied this kid). There is no excuse for taking another persons life unless your life is being threatened or your families life is being threatened.

EdLancer · 09-16-06, 08:39

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Originally Posted by TH0001

you might be the stupidest person on here. Seriously, your defending this nutjob because some people picked on him? You said that YOU don't feel sorry for the dead (probably who where innocent, unless your saying that the ENTIRE school bullied this kid). There is no excuse for taking another persons life unless your life is being threatened or your families life is being threatened.

Actually he never attended this college which is smack in the middle of downtown(to give you a proximity, it is located half a block from the old Montreal forum where the legendary Montreal Canadians hockey team used to play !) he went to a high school in one of the suburbs where he lives like 25km from downtown.

What really makes me angry is that Dawson College is known for its liberalism and friendliness. I can say with 10,000 students that attend it at any one time I had never had a bad personal encounter with any of them during my three years there. You can see the students and faculty are a big family, everyone is sadden by this. Just to give you the scope of this, the entire cellphone grid for the island of Montreal was overloaded for 3 hours as the student started phoning their families to tell them they were alright.

An account by the boyfriend of the the girl who was killed said he saw him shoot his girlfriend, as she fell on the floor, he went over to her and fired eight more shots into her and then moved on to shoot another target. To add insult to injury, the parents of the girl were told by police that their daughter was at the hospital and being operated on, so they went there and waited for hours, only to find out 9 hours later that she was not at the hospital and was pronounce dead at the scene. They only removed her body at 6:00am the following morning after police concluded their investigation.

TH0001 · 09-16-06, 10:17

RIP and my prayers go out to those involved.

EdLancer · 09-16-06, 11:32

Heres a link to a local car forum that I belong to and some of the members attend the school or know people that do. Here is the minute by minute account of that day(started rampage at 12:43, first post 10 minutes later) via forum posting of all things, There are even members whose parents know the killer's parents and members of friends who were injured. The internet really makes the world smaller !

http://forums.montrealracing.com/sho...d.php?t=380486

pwrstrk02 · 09-17-06, 09:47

ok ill admit my ignorance on this one i didnt even read it, just thought it was another high school shooting, but my oppinion still stands on hing school shootings.

TortoiseAWD · 09-18-06, 10:14

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