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wytstang · 08-13-06, 07:42

Are you kidding me they stalked the BMW owner, he should of shot the sorry bastards (if it was real). So what if they took the camera they got just a small bit of what they deserved.

SpoiledMan · 08-13-06, 07:49

You'd better take a look at a stalking law before you come to that conclusion. Don't look at this as a "personal" thing but a "legal thing. This is no different than some pain in the rear kid continually riding on and killing your front lawn and taunting you as he rides away. One day you decide to take his bike from him. You are using force or fear to take his bike away and that is 211PC or Robbery, a felony. He is guilty of simple vandalism (594PC), a misdemeanor at best.

The guy in the BMW used the gun to take the guys camera and that is 211PC(Robbery) and a felony. The other guys are simple road rage suspects.

paradigm · 08-13-06, 09:41

here is a road rage definition by law that i found (3 different categories...i think the 2nd or 3rd degree would apply to this discussion):

The crimes of criminal aggressive driving in the third, second and first degrees.

Third degree criminal aggressive driving, a class A misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail, is committed when a motorist, with intent to harass, annoy or alarm another person, operates a motor vehicle on a public highway in a manner contrary to law. This offense is also committed when a motorist engages in a course of conduct by changing lanes of travel or speed of his or her vehicle on a public highway that serves no legitimate purpose, thereby creating a substantial risk of serious physical injury or death to another person.

Second degree criminal aggressive driving, a class E felony punishable by a maximum sentence of 1 1/3 years to 4 years, is committed when a motorist: (1) recklessly operates a motor vehicle in a manner which creates a substantial risk of serious physical injury or death to another person; or (2) with intent to place another person in fear of physical injury, serious physical injury or death, intentionally displays what appears to be a firearm, machine-gun, rifle or shotgun to another person; or (3) with intent to harass, annoy or alarm another person, intentionally causes his or her vehicle to collide with another vehicle; or (4) commits the third degree offense after having been convicted of the third degree crime within the preceding five years.

First degree criminal aggressive driving, a class D felony punishable by a maximum sentence of 2 1/3 years to 7 years, is committed when a motorist commits the crime of criminal aggressive driving in the third or second degree and causes serious physical injury to or the death of another person. Additionally, the crime is committed when a motorist commits the second degree crime after having been convicted of the second degree crime within the preceding five years.

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SpoiledMan · 08-13-06, 09:43

All they did was follow him. They never tried to run him off the road at all. They never hit his car or caused him any injury.

truzoom · 08-13-06, 10:06

WHY is this being argued? It's just a video, geez.

SpoiledMan · 08-13-06, 10:13

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Originally Posted by truzoom

WHY is this being argued? It's just a video, geez.

Cause this is a free country and we can if we want to.

I don't mean to come off as a jerk at all so let me add to this.

It's good to be educated in a situation such as this. The buy in the BMW did the wrong thing if he didn't take the camera and unedited tape to the police. He could face some good jail time and that's not what I'd like to see anyone here doing. At the very least he could find himself with some pretty healthy legal bills. I have background in this area and have seen situations that turned against what would have been the victim but ended up going to jail cause their response to the situation was wrong.

wytstang · 08-14-06, 11:55

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Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

All they did was follow him. They never tried to run him off the road at all. They never hit his car or caused him any injury.

Followed and harassed them then followed them to a dead end with intent of assault via a bat.

SpoiledMan · 08-14-06, 12:30

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Originally Posted by wytstang

Followed and harassed them then followed them to a dead end with intent of assault via a bat.

So a kid picks on another in school but doesn't hit him. This kid being picked on turns and punches him knocking him out. Yeah, the bully got what he deserved but the kid that did the hitting is likely getting suspended. They did nothing wrong by following him and yelling things at him. That's not against the law.

wytstang · 08-14-06, 10:17

If the kid doing the picking has a weapon with intend to do harm it's self defense, and both with be suspended (in most cases)

SpoiledMan · 08-14-06, 10:23

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Originally Posted by wytstang

If the kid doing the picking has a weapon with intend to do harm it's self defense, and both with be suspended (in most cases)

Good. The BMW driver gets the upper hand when he pulls out a gun. He has control of the situation now. Gun beats a bat any day of the week. He then uses the gun to ROB the hicks. He could have simply used his advantage and the tape and gone to the police with it. Nope, he ROBS them for a camera. The scenario changes if he goes to the police with the camera and unedited tape. From his statements on the clip, he has no intention of doing so. He's an armed robber.

wytstang · 08-14-06, 10:53

Correction he's an armed robber with a new camera LOL and 2 hicks that will think twice next time.

paradigm · 08-15-06, 05:12

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WHY is this being argued? It's just a video, geez.

i wasn't arguing (sorry if it appeared that way)...just discussing the situation. it's an interesting topic!