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[Tasty]

If this is true you know the petroleum companies will have him killed within the week.

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[RTexasF]

That's quite amazing!

[Grouse]

UG not this again.

This is brown gas. This has been around nearly 100 years, And is pretty volitile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown%27s_Gas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown%27s_gas

[Tasty]

For something that's been around 100 years I would bet that not many people have heard of it.

[Grouse]

Well it was used as a welding system before oxy-acetalene. The down side to it was how it was stored, it required ridged tempature control. Just a few degrees out of wack and it would explode... Once Oxy-Ace was introduced it fell almost instantly out of favor.

[Grouse]

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=56705

i recall my old man telling me about browns gas. (blacksmith/welder for 25 years among other things)
"easy to use" stuff apparantly since it essencially removed the need for two gas cansiters from the typical oxygen/acetylene combination, except the stuff has a tendency to blow up rather spontaniously below a certain pressure.
not excactly a appealing trait i might add though both Oxygen and Acetylene are not excactly immune to explosions and such they are still relatively stable under normal conditions.
nevermind the fact that it never produced welds strong enough to be worthwhile over say MIG welding or Oxy/actylene welding.
http://www.alu-info.dk/Html/alulib/modul/A00526.htm


looks like a rehash of "Browns Gas" to me.
http://www.phact.org/e/bgas.htm
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Dear Eric:

I have welded off and on for pver 40 years. One of my friends had a Brown's Gas welder from Dennis Lee on consignment which I tested as a welder to validate Dennis Lee's claims that one could weld with Brown's Gas. What a joke. Brown's gas will not produce a weld of the nature required of any proper weld. The weld has no penetration of the base metal. It is brittle and unmachineable. The flame is such that the heat cannot be used to control the puddle as in welding with most other gas processes I have used. Further, the welding procedure if it were possible to weld with it is not competitive with arc or mig welding processes. The later which are automatic wire feed processes will run circles around any gas process.

Dennis was made aware of the uncompetitive nature of Brown's gas welding yet continues to attempt to sell it by selling the gas as a substitute for the oxygen/acteylene process. Although our demonstration shows that one can cut steel with Brown's Gas as Dennis demonstrates, many companies use propane for that purpose even though it burns at a lower temperature than oxy-acetylene. One the steel begins to puddle, the steel will burn with the oxygen alone no matter what gas is used in the cutting process so long as the surface of the metal is perfectly clean.

The problem with Brown's gas for cutting is the weight of the machine. The 2000 liter machine weighs over 900# and lacks the portability required for most jobs. And that is the main requirement of a cutting torch in the field on construction sites or wherever cutting torches are generally used. Regardless, Brown's gas is a flop as Dennis promoted it.

After extensive use and testing of the Brown's Gas machine, our conclusion is that a Brown's Gas machine makes a good boat anchor. End of story. There is much more, but the sum and substance is that he twisted the demonstrations in the same manner that you have explained on your web site. I was one of those gullible people that got involved with his hair brained ideas but fortunately have had much more experience in that area than Dennis, his crack welder, Sparky, and all the others working with him.


Bob J.

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so its a practical fraud ladies, as for running a conventional car on it...

eeh, that is not a good idea, the car is essencially running on a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen, and while its possible to replace Gasoline with Hydrogen in a conventional combustion engine it has a series of drawbacks including the high burning speed of hydrogen compared to regular fuel, essencially you get precombustion inside inside the injection system due to flashback from the fuelsource, something that is a Very bad thing™
no regular petrol powered car can achive that without frying the injection ports on the engine, and a escort shown there runs a Ford Zetec engine, and the stock valves cant take that kind of pressure, they have issues with overpressure and cracking after even mild turbocharging.

Wankel based engines solve this issue by virtue of moving the entire combustion chamber around though and i belive that these represent the future if the automotive industry go in that direction.

[Tasty]

So this guy invented something that was already invented. Awesome!